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Sebelius Drops New Bombshell: Employer Plans Will Also Drop Workers From Coverage

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Joseph R. Carducci By
November 6, 2013

I don’t care if you’ve been under a rock or had your head in the sand for the past few weeks, you have still most likely heard about the millions of people who have lost their health insurance recently. This was not due to some type of ‘glitch’ in this system, this IS the system. This is exactly as Obama has designed ObamaCare to function.

Yes, we all know Obama promised everyone that they could keep their plans. He promised us that if we liked our healthcare plans no one would take them away. He even emphasized this by looking right into the camera and appearing to push back a single little tear from cheek and said “period.” In my mind this meant that there would need to be no more explaining and no more equivocating, nothing.

This Wednesday, the HHS ObamaCare Queen herself, Kathleen Sebelius was to be found on Capitol Hill. This time her royal duty was to protect Obama’s hide once again as she testified in front of the Senate Finance Committee. As expected, she was grilled about Obama and his broken promises. Specifically about how people were losing their health plans left and right. Presumably, many of them would have liked to remain insured given the fact that before ObamaCare passed something like 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans.

Obama had also repeatedly stated that plans which were held before ObamaCare passed and went into effect would be ‘grandfathered’ in. Of course, this week we have Obama doing some fancy talking trying to explain and equivocate, adding new wrinkles to his so-called promise. Apparently, there were to be some caveats with these prior-held plans like they had to meet the new ObamaCare standards. If not, they will be canceled. This is why we have already seen several million Americans receive cancellation notices from their insurers.

During her testimony today, the HHS Queen informed us that the same caveat applies to employer based insurance plans as well. In other words, if you are currently covered under a plan provided by your employer, watch out! Chances are quite good that it will not meet these new ObamaCare ‘standards.’ But, if we listen to the explanations and equivocations from Obama this should not matter, because all of these plans were ‘sub-standard’ anyway, right? No matter that we obviously picked the best options from our choices, no matter if we like the plan or not, it was just another lousy option according to our perfect community organizer in chief.

I love how now Obama is trying to talk his way out of this way. Everyone with even half a brain understands that he is now a liar…and a liar in the worst way. He did not even lie to make us feel better. He lied to get a lousy, sub-standard healthcare plan passed that he KNEW was going to force millions into options that will end up costing them a lot more money and offer care that we either don’t need or will not use. He knew all this ahead of time and deliberately shoved this down our throats.

The estimates are now running quite high. As the employer mandate takes effect later, we will eventually see something like 93 million Americans losing their healthcare plans. This is a combination of those who have lost their plans through the individual market and the employer market. Sad. That is indeed some caveat…and Queen Kathleen continues to protect this guy and say that he kept his word!

What do YOU think? Are you worried about losing an employer based plan? Do you think Obama has kept his promise? Should we have expected a ‘caveat?’ Is 93 million people just no big deal, or do the Democrats now have a big problem?


  • Michael Cooper

    The Democrats have already lost in 2014 & 2016 they have proven they can’t be trusted and they are liars.

    • Patrick King

      So are the Republicans…..they are complicit in this. We have to get back to The Constitution and impeachment of politicians that do not obey it.

      • Linda

        How are the Republicans complicit?

      • Matt

        Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare, not one. How are they complicit in this exactly? They are not saints, and plenty of them need to be held accountable for the sh#tty people they are, but let’s not try to attach them to this healthcare debacle. This is 100% Democrat.

        • TripleA60

          1. I will have the most transparent administration.
          2. I have Shovel ready jobs.
          3. The IRS is not targeting anyone.
          4. If four Americans get killed, it is not optimal.
          5. ObamaCare will be good for America.
          6. You can keep your family doctor.
          7. Premiums will be lowered by $2500
          8. You can keep your current healthcare plan
          9. Just shop around, for that healthcare I claimed you wouldn’t lose.
          9A. I did not say you could keep your health care. (Regardless that 29 recorded videos show I did)
          9B. ObamaCare will not be offered to illegal immigrants.
          9C. ObamaCare will not be used to fund abortions.
          9D. ObamaCare will cost less than 1 Trillion Dollars.
          10. No one making under $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime.
          11. It was about a movie.
          12. If I had a son.
          13. I am not a dictator.
          14. I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism”.
          15.You didn’t build that.
          16. I will restore trust in Government.
          17. The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
          18. I am not after your guns.
          19. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. The BO of (2006)
          20. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics.
          21. I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.
          22.The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk
          23. It’s not my red line it is the worlds red line.
          24. Whistle blowers will be protected.
          25. We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
          26. I will close Gitmo.
          27. The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t, but she is a typical white person
          28. I am not spying on American citizens.
          29. I Barrack Hussain Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

          Obama voters, here’s your sign…

          • Thomas Doyle

            They couldn’t read their sign anyway…

          • Jbird

            Love it!

          • Jim

            You forgot
            a few.

            “We refused to let Detroit go bankrupt, I bet
            on American workers, and American ingenuity and three years later that bet is
            paying off in a big way.”

            Obama repeatedly looked the American people in the eye
            and promised them
            that these health care
            negotiations would be televised live on CSPAN so we could all see who was
            arguing on behalf of the special interests.

            “We will go through our federal budget – page by page,
            line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that
            those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.”

            “The
            problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to
            take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children,
            driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42
            presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we
            now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back
            – $30,000 for every man, woman and child,”

            “That’s
            irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic,” said candidate Obama.

            “This
            is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility,” Obama
            told Medvedev. “On all these issues, but
            particularly missile defense … this can be solved but it’s important for him
            to give me space,” Obama said.

            Barack Obama’s White House has been forced to admit that
            it did return a bust of Sir Winston Churchill to British diplomats, after
            describing such claims as “100 per cent false”.

            President Barack
            Obama took to the microphone on Friday and during his comments on the
            George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin tragedy he questioned whether or not Florida’s
            so-called ‘‘stand your ground’’ law has a positive influence on peace and
            public safety in American, according to law enforcement officials.

            President Obama may currently be calling on the states to review
            their respective “stand your ground” gun laws, but he wasn’t always so opposed
            to the right-to-carry rule.

            In 2004, while a senator in Illinois, he co-sponsored legislation
            that allowed for the same rights.

            In 2008, he said: “I believe marriage is between a
            man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.”

          • Moozie

            Oblunder the wonder boy ( Wonder who he really is) has Diarrhea of the Mouth with no cure in sight !

          • JoeBotz

            I read that lead helps.

          • horsma nore

            and constlpation of the brain

          • Bryan Thompson

            Bushie boy bailed out he automakers, he has even taken credit for it. Amazing the short memory of republitards.

          • Smileynh

            And the banking crisis started under Clinton.

          • otheroptions

            Not only did it start under Clinton, it started because an upstart attorney from Chicago won a lawsuit that suggested that it was discrimination to hold blacks to the same lending criteria of credit score, debt-to-income ratios, etc. This caused a change in the laws under Clinton. Give the banks a few years to digest it and learn to profit from it, and BAM! While Bush is distracted by 9/11, Katrina, etc. a disaster in the making is formed.

          • Laffing Crow

            Bush was never distracted by Katrina, he didn’t even notice it. I do remember him being a little busy with damage control about a week after Katrina however.

          • ShamrockRancher

            Kanye? Is dat you?

          • Scott Stephenson

            Go check the record. It was a democratic mayor who said no evacuation was needed and democratic governor that tied his hands…. A president can not send in national guard troops unless the governor asks for it…there was your major delay.

          • Lisatee

            THANK YOU for that. Nobody ever remembers how that disaster was made worse by the locals. And by the way, Hurricane Sandy people are still waiting….anybody care? anyone?

          • ShamrockRancher

            Uh, actually it did. Clinton’s signing of the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) directly lead to the housing bubble/financial melt down.

          • ATrober

            Correction, Carter started it with his housing programs.

          • Steve the Great

            And even shorter for Obamafuck supporters! They, like him, can’t even keep his lies straight,

          • LibDebunk

            The only good thing about ObamaCare is that nut case democrats like Bryan here can finaly get the mental health help they NEED!

          • Scott Stephenson

            Jim and TripleA60..great posts!! here is my thought on the lying… Nixon lied about something that affected almost no one and was hounded by the press into resigning or he would have been impeached….Obama lied about tons of crap that affects all of us…just sayin’..press..do your job…

          • d2j3d5

            9C was acually promised to pro-life dems. who would not support the bill with that in it for their votes.

          • Mark Huston

            Actually 1 Republican name Cao did.

            http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml

            But still you are right it was the Dem controlled House and Senate that did this.

          • fafhrd

            You need to look at the vote on March 21, 2010.

          • Todd

            I agree and the Republicans have been attacked in every way possible for trying to stop this huge problem.. The Democrats own this one outright.. NO Republicans wanted this and even better well over 50% of Americans did not want it.. Pelosi said pass it and then we will see what is in it and it was signed and now we know.. I love seeing the voters who supported it losing their insurance plans.. You reap what you sow.. So the democrats need to buck up…own it and reap it!!!! They all should be impeached and put in to prison!!! I would vote to support that yesterday!!

          • Waiting4

            Hmmmm.. because of the ACA’s vastness (and voluminous Regulations it has and will continue to spawn), as well as the probable unintended consequences, we still don’t know all of the coming problems possible under the ACA.

          • Chris Callahan

            You do know that over 50% number includes the people that do not think it goes far enough? A little honest research goes a long way.

          • ShamrockRancher

            How about a good ‘ol tar and feather’n?

          • blondejustice1

            Great post. Now if we can get those racists that only voted for him because of his skin color to admit that they made a huge mistake, maybe we can fix this mess. Only problem, most of the voters are on some kind of government support so it’s not going to happen. Now, if we can get Dr. Ben Carson, a man of integrity or Allen West to be a candidate, I will vote for either of them. Skin color is the one thing people are born with and they have no control over that. But how they live their life matters to me. I’m white too! I just wasn’t raised to be a racist because Dr. King made a lot of sense. We are all God’s children and some misbehave badly, but it isn’t their skin causing that. Truth is truth.

          • nuff said

            TO BLONDEJUSTICE…Rarely do I agree 100% with a post but this “bottle blonde” agrees with YOU completely. Are you listening Republican Party Power Brokers? PUHLEASE put one of these men on the ticket!

          • blondejustice1

            Bottle blonde or naturally blonde, like me, makes no difference. Just like skin color, my hair color doesn’t make me a dumb blonde. Just check out my National Honor Society application with my transcripts that I never sent in while in college. I was too busy working, raising my child without his deadbeat dad paying any support and no support from the government as well. Did it all myself and I still am.
            Oh man! Don’t get me started on welfare crap!!!!! Anybody who is able-bodied needs to be working some kind of job to pay for what they get. I used to take care of handicapped people who actually worked for money before they would take a bunch of handouts. They could run circles (in their wheelchairs) around the lazy-ass, leg-spreading, booty-calling low-lifes that just keep breeding but not able to do the feeding of the babies they pop out. We need to offer the men and women who keep producing drug-addicted preemie babies that cost a lot to keep alive, $5,000.00 each to be sterilized. Boy the money we could save in welfare, medical, and incarceration costs would be incredible!

          • otheroptions

            How about a shared ticket?

          • blondejustice1

            Not sure what you meant…you mean political ticket? Please explain further.

          • blondejustice1

            Okay, had to read my previous post to understand what you meant. A bunch of us non-racist white people would be glad to vote for two upstanding gentlemen like Dr. Ben Carson and Allen West. I think after the Obama disaster, we could get those of other colors to do so too. They could right their wrongs voting for what I would consider a definite winning ticket. How about it RNC? No money from me if you don’t put up a Carson/West ticket for 2016. What a dream ticket that would be.

          • ABCReader

            Check the electoral college map much? Most of the blacks live in the southern states, and Obama didn’t carry any southern state except FL (and didn’t even need FL to win), so actually Obama, by and large, was not elected by blacks. They voted for him, but the South didn’t provide ANY electoral votes (except FL — and I guess you could count Virginia, although most southerners don’t consider either of those southern states.).

          • blondejustice1

            Don’t forget about all the voting machines that people voted for Romney on, but they showed a vote for Obama. And that law signed a few years ago meant that no Republican can check out the fraud, where he carried 100% and 125 % of the precincts. Impossible unless it’s fraud. THAT really helped him in the voting. Lying a lot did too, of course.

          • sage58

            Can you say “gerrymander”? You DO realize that many would not be holding their present seats (R’s & D’s) if districts were properly drawn?
            Oh, – and I’m a Lib with a capital “L” and I’m not too happy with the POTUS’s antics of late either. But that has more to do with his energy programs and the TPP and a few other things.
            Personally, I’m still in favor of a single-payer system. But that’s another argument.

          • Patti1947

            You need to send a copy of these statements to Rand Paul, Mike Lee or Ted Cruz……. These are perfect examples why Obama should NOT be President. Please send this to them……You should also send a copy of Reince Prebius – who leads the Republican party. He is the guy who sends out all the mailers to people and surveys and general information on politicians…. Mike Huckabee also has a t.v. show on Fox….. He would probably read your items on his show if you send them to him…….

          • lucy

            Every letter I get now asking for $$ is returned with “investigate Benghazi, IRS scandal, etc.”, on the comment portion. The last one was returned with a comment about the GOP’s mistreatment of the Tea Party.

          • Walter

            Wow! What a list ! If this were you or myself, we would be Tarred and feathered and run out of town !

        • Gar

          Actually, the first time this bill was in the house, it passed unanimously. Then it went to the senate and got tweaked and passed there, and when it went back to the house as amended, THEN no republican voted for it. The first time they voted, the house needed a simple majority to kill it, which they would have had if they voted the same as they did the second time, but when the bill returned to the house amended, they needed a 2/3rds majority to kill it. They simply did not have 2/3rds majority. BTW…I have no use for Obamacare…so this is not meant as any kind of defense of it, but rather an indictment of the individuals responsible for this mess.

          • Gar
          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            Wrong 100%. The bill originated in the house, H.R. 3590 to help service members receive tax breaks on their mortgage. Then the lying snake Dems changed it completely because they knew it would be a tax and all revenue producing bills must start in the house. Then it was not voted on a by another R in the Senate and a few Rhinos were bought off in the house. The only ones responsible for this mess are D’s and the Rhinos like Mike Enzi, Olympia Snowe, Bob Bennet, and Chuck Grassley. Who were bought off by Obama and the Dems.

        • helochappy

          If good men do nothing to stop evil men, they are just as guilty as the evil men. Republicans may not have voted for it, but even in the opposition of it there are more than enough Republicans doing nothing and some that are even opposing the opposition.

          • frank

            Right..so how come no one is saying to impeach this son of a bitch socialist!

            IMPEACH!

          • James from Dallas

            Michelle Bachman has been pushing for the impeachment of the POTUS; she may be working on this bill as we speak. Many Democrats now have fear for re-election and are giving this Friday as a deadline for a fix to ObamaCare, “The Affordable Care Act.” Between next week and just before Thanksgiving Day, the House of Representatives should move to formally impeach the POTUS for failing to faithfully execute the office of the POTUS, for failing to execute the laws of the land, for claiming, as Lou Dobbs put it, to “know nothing” about a number of very important issues which he as a leader should have known or been aware of, and if he did know as in case of ObamaCare where the POTUS said that you can keep your heath plan but knew some plans would inexorably be cancelled, then he lied to the American people. We do not need a liar as a POTUS!!!

          • Dustin Schlesner

            Yeah get rid of that dumb bitch too!

          • haunani

            Well, Friday came and went, and there isn’t a fix in sight other than the lie that he continues to tell. My GOD, How much more is this nation going to endure of this man until he is either reined in or at least REAL obstruction takes place to kill this monstrosity.

          • Daniel P Hanover

            I’ve been saying that EVERY DAY since the day this BUM took office. He’s a PROUD socialist.

        • Daniel P Hanover

          “CHANGE you can believe in !” :)

        • Waiting4

          The Republicans failed to ‘sell’ the public on viable alternatives to the Affordable Care Act. They allowed the public to believe Obama actually gave a crap about the people. And in my context, ‘Obama’ includes all of the people who tell him what to do and when to do it, not just the figurehead Barack himself!

        • Eric Mulford

          I’m not about defending either party in this situation. This was cast and continues to reflect party lines. Party lines are bad for a nation looking for answers. Where the Republicans are complicit is they can read. Many of them have law degrees and understand contractual law. The promise could NOT be kept no matter what. The nature of a health insurance contract will not allow that kind of promise. I ask where were the Republicans prior to the vote? Why weren’t they looking the public in the eye and saying the promise contractually could not be kept?

        • Laffing Crow

          Explain Romneycare again?

      • sanderdog

        The House controlled by the Republicans with many Tea Party members has voted over 40 times to eliminate OBozo No Care. If the criminal Harry Reid would allow a vote in the Senate, the democrat controlled Senate would likely vote to repeal the law now that they have read it!

        • mencik

          Waste of time. Even had the Senate voted to repeal it (not likely), the President would have vetoed that, and there is no way they would have gotten 2/3 majorities in both houses to override the veto.

          • ConradCA

            Not a waste of time because is would be great political theater and show Obama for the Tyrant that he is.

          • Daniel P Hanover

            Correct !

          • Daniel P Hanover

            What the House can do is simply refuse to appropriate any money at all to implement and support OBAMACARE in any way whatsoever.

        • Daniel P Hanover

          But Harry [G]Reid won’t allow a vote on it.

      • Tyrone Mahem

        We’ve been telling you for years but you koolaid drinkers wouldn’t put the straw down. NOW understand why 17% of the Federal Govt was shut down?

      • http://yes.no/ of course

        Up yours Pat

      • Wayne K

        Huh?? They may well be complicit in many things, but this certainly isn’t one of them. This was a grandiose plan of the left wing Democrats and the only ones complicit are the more moderate Democrats who voted for it. This isn’t even Bill Clintons Democrats.

      • Tom

        Pat King ..your head is in the sand …get a life

      • RedBopete

        It’s my understanding that the House has to impeach, but it’s up to the
        Senate to decide if a president should actually be removed from office.
        Without removal, impeachment would accomplish very little. I’m sure
        Obama and his supporters not only wouldn’t care, but they would be
        shouting “racism” from the rooftops.

    • nunvyabiz

      They may not have voted for it, but they have not done a single thing to stop it or keep Obama and his minions from violating our Constitution. They are just as guilty as the perpetraitor.(misspelling intentional :-)

      • Desertcatn

        What were they supposed to do, hit the Dems with a bat?

        • Patti1947

          Great idea….. They need to be hit with a bat to bring them back to reality…. They are incompetent, delusional, self centered, egotistical, money hungry, lying, jerks.

        • nunvyabiz

          Oh I don’t know, maybe….stand up and represent the people that put them in office?

      • Ed Duffy

        hey dumbass, the Reps shut down the government in an effort to defund Obamacare. Get a grip.

        • http://yes.no/ of course

          Obama shut it down by not negotiating

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            And furthermore, they only wanted to delay the individual mandate like Odumbo had for all of Congress, big business, and the unions. Had they delayed it, we would never truly know what a debacle it was and how big of a liar he is. glad they did not succeed and that Obama is really that stupid. Will be great when everyone loses their hc before the 2014 elections. Should get all the seats we need to impeach this socialist fuck!

        • nunvyabiz

          They caved.

    • EMann

      That’s what I thought in 2012

    • mjohnson

      I’m 57 and at age 32 I figured out that these people were doing nothing but liars. That is when I switched from being a Dem to a Republican. And now you even have to keep an eye on some of them! John McCain needs to retirs as well as many more!

      • Patti1947

        I too was once a democrat…and changed to Republican. There are many Republicans that need to have their butts kicked out of office too, but Obama, Holder, Reid, and Pelosi need to go NOW… Nancy Pelosi was just asked on t.v. if she told any of her constituents that they couldn’t keep their health plan under Obamacare and she replied that she has never met anyone that liked their current insurance coverage plan. WHAT? She is nuts and delusional….. What a damn liar she is too. Oprah just said we don’t like Obama just because he is black. Oprah, I thought you were an intelligent person, until you made this stupid comment. We don’t like him because he is trying to destroy our great country. This doesn’t affect you because you too won’t have Obamacare. If Bush was doing half of what Obama is doing, you would have lead Americans to have him impeached.

        • delta4119

          Yes we don’t respect Obama. Why? Because he shows
          the people no respect with his Lies. It has nothing to do
          with being black. Really Really Really I can’t believe Opera
          can’t see the real problems that obama has brought down
          on this country. She has lost her wisdom and I will be see
          Opera through different eyes from now on.

          • Arian Smith

            You don’t like her because shes black!

          • allah_speaking

            No, I don’t like her because she’s fat and black.

          • kirby

            allah…. Your IQ is in negative figures.

          • William Liddle

            And still higher than yours.

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            So what? You a Nagger lover wigger?

          • msbets

            LMAO!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE RACIST SHYT!!

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            The cow was never wise,just a bigoted manipulator such as her crew of Jacksofften and Al Shaboon the race baiters!

          • kirby

            Delta… I suppose you feel the Republicans show normal Americans respect? What a joke! Republicans represent the wealthy. Period!

          • William Liddle

            You don’t have a clue. JUst repeating what you hear the big boys say.

        • LibDebunk

          90% of Americans liked what they had! Pelosi is a evil bitch!

          • Laffing Crow

            Before ACA only 84.3% of Americans HAD insurance. Quit making stuff up.

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            The statement reads 90% of Americans who had healthcare liked what they had, not 90% of Americans had healthcare. In any case, there are less who have it now. You effing moron liberals need to leave this country and go eff up your own!

          • Laffing Crow

            LibDebunk posted: 90% of Americans liked what they had! Pelosi is a evil bitch!

            Show me where it says “who had healthcare”.

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            It is implied dumbass. You are NOT the majority. That is why you should leave. Here is a tip, once you go liberal you have no credibility with anyone.

          • Guest

            Ha Ha Ha pawned! No face palmed!

          • kirby

            Think what you will manmade. The fact is, President Obama was re-elected, and your party lost again. Pretty simple.

          • JustAnotherPixel

            Exactly and look what it has got you Lib’s.. I told my lib friends if you complain about the man you helped put in office Ill end them.. Lib’s suck it up and let ya Bami take ya tax’s I am retired and could care less

          • kirby

            We are quite satisfied with our choice, thank you. You can whine all you want about losing the election, and nobody cares.

          • leroy

            Yes and you are the dumbass that voted the SOB back in

          • kirby

            And you are the simpleton that wasted your vote on flip flop.

          • JustAnotherPixel

            Exactly once you go Liberal That credibility is gone never to return

          • kirby

            If I’m not mistaken, you just implied that the Republicans have credibility? Give me a break bozo.

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            STFU weasel! Go hang out with the other communist losers bitch boy!

          • JoeKirkup

            A normal, intelligent adult would have understood that the topic here is people who had health insurance and are losing it so the figure 90% referred to that group and not Americans in general. Even if, as you pointed out, only 84% of us had health plans, that means 75% of Americans liked their plans and, to be perfectly honest, we’re not “laffing.”

          • gcole22

            Everyone had health care. Some didn’t have health insurance. Now many who had quality health care will have mediocre health care.

          • ditchdigger

            Give your information to a convicted felon Gov. worker, with a laptop. Can’t wait.

          • Kent2012

            if any at all, and if you are an old geezer do not get sick….the commies just send you out in the woods to pick dollar bills of the money tree…….

          • sage58

            I did not have health care, I was a waitress. I made the mistake of seeing a military-mandated counselor when my marriage was breaking up. That set me up for a “pre-existing condition”. So no insurance. But BC/BS had a nice cottage side business of selling you a letter that said they disqualified you for $125. I paid that, but then the state told me I’d have to wait a year to apply for state-subsidized. So NO, I had no health care except the ER. And that was simply too expensive. When an ambulance picked me up when I was unconscious from food poisoning, those bills set me back 7 years. So NO, not everyone had health care as it should be defined. I mean – in what world would I otherwise pay over $8000 for intravenous antibiotics?

          • gcole22

            Could I ask you how much your Obamacare policy costs and how much the deductibles and co-pays are? Sorry you had such serious health care issues.

          • sage58

            I’m married now and on husband’s plan. But if I was still waitressing for a living, I’d probably pay almost nothing at all because my income would be so low, I’d definitely get the subsidies. I would sign up in a heartbeat – being without health insurance is scary, expensive and doctors take horrible care of you when they see you don’t have insurance. If I was still waiting tables, my only other need would be the occasional sick day – Paid. Hated to have to wait on tables when I knew I was sick, but would be fired otherwise.
            On my husband’s plan, which isn’t so hot, he pays about $16/week, but for me it comes to $167/week. Our annual deductible is something like $5000 before ins. kicks in. Very few meds are covered.

          • sanderdog

            Not to worry. Your husband’s plan will be cancelled and replaced by an Obama care plan with higher deductibles.

          • sallyho3000 .

            Sounds a lot like what you had before, only now you have to pay for it.
            Hard to imagine that your income would not be too high; I’ve worked in restaurants for almost 20 years and I’ve never seen a server make little enough to qualify for ANY government assistance/subsidy of any kind.

          • gunner221

            What you had to go through is a shame. Sorry that happened. The only good thing I can see about Bama’s insane health act is getting rid of pre existing conditions. Other than that, he shafted this country. The pre existing condition clause should have been eliminated before. Bama is a star member of the group of liars (pelosi,reid, wassersman shultz). They are disgusting and need to just go away.

          • kirby

            You pubs keep forgetting the worthless Boehner and McConnell.

          • timmy

            Oh shut up… Deal with it like the rest of us. I pay 200 dollars per month fo insulin and over 300 dollars a month for anti-epilepsy drugs. Don’t tell me you had problems because of an ER visit, just set up a payment plan for 25 dollars a month. To say a hspital will only take full payment at one time is a lie… Maybe you should not go to a hospital, maybe you can go to an off premise care emergency faciliity. I have used them and frankly they are better than a hospital ER. This is the same bullshit that has gotten us to where we are today with OC…now we just get screwed by the government.

          • sallyho3000 .

            I cannot help but feel as if I am not really old enough to be the only one around me that remembers that health insurance came along as a supposedly necessary financial intermediary in health care, and that it was AFTER that paradigm shift (within the med industry) that the costs of health care exploded exponentially.

            You see, it’s a hell of a racket, if you can get in on it. Very few states allow you to be sued or otherwise penalized for medical debt… they’ll try to scare you, but…
            …even ridiculously huge medical debt; really doesn’t even effect credit much. Do you live in CA, or something…?

          • dantanyan

            There’s a heck of a lot more to it than that. Companies originally started offering health insurance because they could buy coverage in bulk cheaply & it could be passed to the employee as a benefit. The company got a benefit because it’s employees were more healthy (and productive) and the employee got a policy that would have cost them 3-5X as much.

            Since the 70′s, that paradigm shift has seen rates skyrocket – and other things happen too. Typical treatment has gone from one X-ray to a dizzying array of tests on a battery of multi-million dollar machines. Hospital staffs and infrastructure has increased exponentially. Medical malpractice went from almost nothing in the 60′s to a $900 Billion Dollar industry today and most every dollar of that comes from insurance companies. Life expectancy has been increased by a dozen years and we are unwilling to live with the everyday aches & pains that our grandparents figured was just part of getting old.

          • sage58

            I had 3 different credit agencies after my ass for a few years until my ex finally settled out divorce (only good thing the military ever did for me). I was being hit from the hospital, the doctors, the doctor’s offices, and the ambulance people. For me it was a matter of pride to pay all of it. I don’t have outstanding bills today. But they didn’t want to accept the $20 ea. I was capable of sending. After 6 mo., if not paid in full, SOP was to send it to a collector.
            I even asked that collector for a job. But this all happened in TN – not a good place to live if you’re not well off.
            But the biggest factor was the fact that I came from a family that taught me to fear debt with a vengeance and that your credit score was your identity. I now know that’s not true and have estranged myself from them.
            Yes – they’re Very well off. They can keep it.

          • Ernie

            Military-mandated marriage counseling? Really? As a retired military hospital administrator of 28 years (retired in DEC 2011), I call BS on that. Military leaders don’t have that kind of authority over dependents. Tell you lie to someone who doesn’t know any better.

          • sage58

            I really wanted to get off this thread but when I’m called a liar, I must reply.
            When I went to the Red Cross which was where I was directed to go under my circumstances, they told me they would not help me at all and that I should go to the Navy for counseling. There would be no coverage if I sought counseling anywhere else. That’s why I used the word “mandated”. Yes, I realize now it was a misnomer on my part, but the fact remained that it was the only counseling available to me free of cost at that time.
            And yes, BC/BS told me and wrote me that because I sought that out for the depression of having my life tossed upside-down, they counted that as a pre-existing condition and refused to write me any coverage at all.
            But for $125 (something like that, long time ago), they did provide me with a letter of refusal to cover which enabled me to start the process of applying for state aid in TN. That was cancelled when their system went almost belly-up in 2003.

          • sallyho3000 .

            Funny how quickly everybody seems to have been trained to equate health insurance with healthcare, as if the former begets the latter…

          • kirby

            “Everyone had health care”? Right. The people that didn’t have coverage simply went to the emergency room for treatment, and didn’t pay a dime. Who paid the bill? We all did, in the form of higher rates. Now they have coverage.

          • nunvyabiz

            Now we pay even more for the same results.

          • msbets

            YOUR AN A$$,apparently you ARE ONE THAT’S BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK……….PERIOD!!

          • Scott Page

            Its called inference. The word ‘had’ already infers that the subject is 90% of those who HAD health insurance. It is also inferred directly from the article. Nice try at re-posturing though!

          • loki9222

            The article said in the third paragraph…”Specifically about how people were losing their health plans left and right. Presumably, many of them would have liked to remain insured given the fact that before ObamaCare passed something like 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans.”

          • ditchdigger

            By 2018, they will force trade, teachers, SEIU suckers into the trap. They have got the union leaders, those that that cannot buy. caught up in corruption, they will creat a situation if need be.

          • listening

            It says “90% of insured Americans”…that’s where it says they had healthcare!!!!

          • sanderdog

            Well, that is what happens when a person is educated in a liberal run school.

          • kirby

            sandydog…. Did you forget your meds again?

          • Henry Bowman

            The article distinctly says, and I quote.. 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans. ~ now we can see that you’re obviously an idiot, but can you also not read and understand simple English ?

          • lmdk2

            It’s right there to read if you know how TO read !!

          • William Liddle

            ” given the fact that before ObamaCare passed something like 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans.”

            3rd paragraph genius.

          • Guest

            “something like 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans”

            Last line of the third paragraph, reading is fundamental!

          • De

            Are you one of those living under the rock.

          • CommonSense

            Presumably, many of them would have liked to remain insured given the
            fact that before ObamaCare passed something like 90 percent of insured
            Americans were happy with their plans.

            Quoted straight from the article. 90 percent of INSURED Americans were happy…

          • meezercat

            The sentence reads ’90% of INSURED Americans were happy with their plans’. I’m assuming that doesn’t mean house or car insurance but health insurance.

          • ben

            Presumably, many of them would have liked to remain insured given the fact that before ObamaCare passed something like 90 percent of insured Americans were happy with their plans.

          • http://tompawlikauthor.blogspot.com/2014/02/bureaucratopia-slightly-twisted.html Tom Pawlik

            “90% of insured Americans”
            Do you have to work at being an idiot, or does it just come naturally?

          • Laffing Crow

            Also, why should we leave? We are in the majority.

            (Here’s a tip: Once you go ad hominem, you’ve lost the argument.)

          • allah_speaking

            Majority? Hardly

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            How are you the majority Corky? Oh you mean when GOOD COMMUNISTS (ACORN) pick the homeless,shut ins, illiterates and low information voters up in vans and ferry them to different locations casting illegal votes,oh and lets not mention the thousands of deceased people and animals that also voted and to finish it off,immigrants and illegals who are ineligible to vote in our country!

            Yea pack up and move to the new Soviet Union ass clown!

          • Joe French

            laffin, I can truly understand why you said what you did. about the 90%. Because you are illiterate. And you were no doubt one of those that didn’t have insurance. If you didn’t have insurance did you like what you had? Answer that question because if you say yes or no, then you are really stupid. What’s the opposite of yes? of up? of on? These are your lessons for today. Tomorrow we will have you try spelling yes, up & on. I don’t know if Obamacare covers brain transplants, but if it does, you better sign up. I hear they have a mouse donor.
            Maybe you have a way out of all of this…..STFU.

          • Henry Bowman

            Not only insurance, but I would wager that laffin is one of the leeches who are mooching off the system and contributing not a thing to benefit the country.

          • kirby

            Henry…. Very common Republican talking point. Anybody that does not agree with you must be a “Taker” You guys are hilarious!

          • Dakota

            Kirby? You were named after a vacuum cleaner?

          • JustAnotherPixel

            you would be right id say..

          • kirby

            Joe French… You are so easy to read. You are so obvious. Just another disgruntled Republican voter, that cannot accept the results of the last election. And another common Republican trait, you think you are smarter than everyone else. Think again pal.

          • Scott Page

            You dont even understand what a majority is do you…lol

            Your moniker is most fitting!

          • Laffing Crow

            A majority is what re-elected President Obama last year. A minority is what didn’t elect Romney as President last year. I know you guys didn’t pay attention to the polls, have you now decided that the election didn’t happen?

          • William Liddle

            Yes…he was re-elcted in November 2012 but he now has less than a 40% approval rating among the voting public so re-election wouldn’t happen today and that puts you in the minority.

          • kirby

            William…. Thankfully the American voters were smart enough to send Mitt packing. And for your information, the last 8 Presidents had an approval rating lower than President Obama’s current rating, at some time during their term.

          • William Liddle

            Doesn’t change what I said. Obama couldn’t win an election today. Lying won the last election for him but the American voting public wouldn’t fall for it again. I’ve seen some of your other comments and you’re just another ill informed liberal with a big mouth.

          • happy50132003

            How can u still support Obama after all the lies he has told over and over and then throw in the scandals. One scandal u can blame on the republicans but all his lies and more scandals he has to be guilty. Obama is a loser and destroying our country. You have to be very simple minded or a taker of some of his gifts (subsidies)

          • happy50132003

            With all of Obama’s lies can we really believe that the election was fair or did Obama and his Chicago friends (thugs) has something to do with the election.

          • sage58

            Considering the vast majority of dirty tricks came from the Republican side – - –
            What’s that again about people in glass houses, eh?

          • JustAnotherPixel

            not really.. what re elected that muslim was voting fraud

          • worldgonemad

            So, Laffing… you think that Obama’s policies are good for you and the rest of the country… just because he won?

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            Thanks,I was thinking the same thing! Communist liberal are a cancer.

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Small, but important point: the so-called “liberals” have, thankfully, begun using their proper designation – “progressives.” The Founders and Framers were true liberals – the term referenced their purpose – liberating individuals from excessive government interference. I am a proud liberal, as they understood it. Any true liberal recoils from Obamacare/ACA.

          • leroy

            You are a true idiot flatfoot

          • sanderdog

            Please call yourself a libertarian rather than a liberal which has come to mean something very bad.

          • notmyamerica

            Yes just as the term conservative has been perverted as well..Its good to be conservative…Not waste…LOL the current powers have no clue of the meaning.

          • kirby

            People like you fail to read and educate yourself. You fail to recognize that the people who lost coverage didn’t have real coverage to start with. They had useless coverage that didn’t pay for anything, most notably hospitalization.

          • William Liddle

            There is no proof that these policies were useless or sub-standard other than the talking points used by Obama and parroted by his lemmings. I supposed when the employer mandate kicks in and employees are turned over to the exchanges by their employers….those will suddenly turn into junk policies per the lib lemmings.

          • sage58

            Uh nuh, I had one of those policies and Yes, they were absolutely worthless! They covered pretty much nothing, the deductibles were in the mid-4-figures, had no drug coverage or discounting, the co-pays ran around 50% and cost the lowest waged employees about 15% of their pay. But if low wage workers didn’t accept the plans, then the state would not cover them. Ask anyone who had one of these “McPlans” if they were covered if they contracted cancer or heart disease? I can guarantee the answer would be No.

          • JustAnotherPixel

            uhh that’s just it it was YOUR coverage/ not Obummers Im waiting for the day the democraps and Libtards get so hosed by Obummer but it will be too late

          • sage58

            No, it was the coverage the company chose. Not mine at all or I would have chosen to keep it, lousy as it was, after I left the job un-voluntarily. You know, Right-to-Work laws and all that. Which just means they can fire you for anything they want. In my case, when the asst. mngr, was promoted, she didn’t like me personally so off I went.
            Off to find another job the next day. A worse job, but another job nevertheless.
            And for the record, it’s not that I’m dumb, but I will admit to being guileless on more than a few occasions.

          • kirby

            I’m sure you prefer the Republican plan. Oh, that’s right, they don’t have a plan. For more than 4 years they have whined and tried to appeal “Obamacares”, and yet offered nothing of their own. A Republican Senator from out west just recently stated “We need to formulate a health plan of our own”
            Oh really?

          • kirby

            justanotheridiot…. Your name calling shows your grade school mentality.

          • sallyho3000 .

            Only 15%? You’ve (I suspect) been playing broke-mouth this whole time. Either that, or you were too dense to know that the “health plan” offered by your employer was bunk (because maybe you didn’y read the fine print? It’s ok. Most younger folks don’t)), and paid for it anyway, because some manager (corporate place, right? The only ones with enough employees to get a group rate worth chipping in?) told you it was a great health plan (because theirs is; not the one they offer to you; you find that out when you become a manager…) and you went along and paid for it anyway. Sounds like you are a little resentful of your own naivete, not the healthcare system that set you back “seven years.”

          • sage58

            Like I said, I’m doing well now, compared to the majority of Americans, but that is completely by the grace of my husband. And – as said before – I HAD to take that coverage or get NADA. That was how the state of TN set it up back in 1999. And the 15% came out of a paycheck that amounted to a little over $100. Remember – tipped persons are paid MUCH less. I was making $2.13/hr. What you wouldn’t know is that in a 8-hr. period, that may be as few as 12 tables equaling more or less than $45 in tips. The rest of that time was to be spent cleaning the restaurant. So in a part-time (they never hired full) job, working approx. 35 hrs/wk,, I might have made $300. Of that, I was paying about $45/wk on insurance. But still couldn’t afford to use it unless I had a big emergency. Remember – no paid sick days, no vacation days.

          • sallyho3000 .

            I guess if you got a paycheck in a right-to-work-for-less state you were perfectly honest about not making much.
            I waited tables a 2.32 and then 3.32 an hour, but never got a paycheck bc it all went to taxes…

          • worldgonemad

            In fact, William Liddle, my employer-based policy was quite good and was very helpful as I went through cancer treatments. Thankfully, I’m in remission now but I still require follow up care every 3 months for quite a while. I’m very afraid of losing my employer coverage and/or access to the same doctors who’ve been treating me. I’m also concerned about the high deductibles I’ve been hearing about. How many individuals actually have to pay that much each year if they’re typically healthy? I hope I’m wrong, but t seems feasible that many people’s insurance would never kick in, even after paying high premiums every month.

          • sallyho3000 .

            I’m VERY glad to see that the simple math of …ACA is causing others cognitive dissonance.

          • worldgonemad

            Sallyho, I’m sorry to hear that. Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

          • kirby

            Does your “Cognitive dissonance” realize that health care premiums went up 80% in the last 10 years alone?

          • kirby

            No proof? It has been reported many times by responsible journalists that those old policies were basically worthless.
            They didn’t even cover hospitalization. One trip to the hospital, and those folks would be filing bankruptsy. Of course you pubs never heard that on Faux.

          • JustAnotherPixel

            Kirby . that was their choice. and it was real coverage Obummer is trying to make people think that those who had their insurance cancelled had the worst out there but lets say it was worthless coverage who cares it was their choice of coverage it wasn’t Obama’s choice or your choice.to make it was their choice. and this will be the Libtards downfall..

          • kirby

            “Libtards”? Gee you pubs are really intelligent. Your IQ is quite obvious.

          • Holly Ball

            BS, my plan covered my needs as well as hospitalization you phycking idiot. It was cancelled and now I get maturnity coverage, pediatric coverage, and prostate care. Problem is I’m 57 UNable to have children and have NO kids at home, oh yes and I’m a WOMAN. Being a barrybot lackey is very unattractive, not to mention STU PID

          • kirby

            Yeah right. Your party represented health care, NOT you bozo.

          • Robert Bernardo

            I think you may want to pay a bit more attention to what you’re reading. It’s 90% of people who HAD HEALTHCARE, not 90% of the people have healthcare. Geeeeez.

          • allah_speaking

            And now less do… moron.

          • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

            And just where did you find you’re information?

          • Bob

            Yes, 84.3% of Americans had insurance and 90% of those liked what they had.

          • gcole22

            After Obamacare the majority will have more expensive insurance and poorer healthcare.

          • kirby

            gcole…. You should read and educate yourself.

          • William Liddle

            You’re the one with no education….just a pocketful of liberal nonsense.

          • Joe French

            laffin, I can truly understand why you said what you did. Because you are illiterate. And you were no doubt one of those that didn’t have insurance. If you didn’t have insurance did you like what you had? Answer that question because if you say yes or no, then you are really stupid. What’s the opposite of yes? of up? of on? These are your lessons for today. Tomorrow we will have you try spelling yes, up & on. I don’t know if Obamacare covers brain transplants, but if it does, you better sign up. I hear they have a mouse donor.
            Maybe you have a way out of all this…..STFU.

          • kirby

            Joe French has a false sense of self worth.

          • William Liddle

            The very same thing can be said about you. You give no proof of anything you say but it doesn’t stop you from repeating the BS you get from lemming headquarters.

          • Feathers

            ONLY?

          • Kent2012

            by the time kenyan boy is through only 86.3% of Americans will have insurance with the American Taxpayer picking up the tab….

          • kirby

            Kent…. You should read the news, and turn off Faux news. It makes you look silly.

          • William Liddle

            you don’t need any help looking OR sounding silly. you’re quite adept at it on your own.

          • Kent2012

            William do you think that if kirby read kenyan boy’s book and then brushed up on his campaign speechs, especially the one that the african pretender made to the unions promising “single payer health care” that he might have an “enlightenment” ??

          • happy50132003

            At least Fox news gives both sides of a discussion better than the liberal stations that just poke fun of the candidates and the issues on CNN and MSNBC. Look what MSNBC has done in the last 2 months. Believe what u want but the liberals have lied repeatedly. Obama lied the most

          • De

            ……and under Obama Care there will still be 31 million still not covered under Obama Care or any other insurance. Obama said everyone would be covered by Obama Care. Another lie.

          • sanderdog

            And, now fewer people have insurance. Different people perhaps but not more.

          • janderson4795

            Another brain washed liberal. ABWL

          • Robert Hutson

            So basically by your own admission they screwed up the entire health and insurance system for, basically, 15.7% of the population. Somehow in my mind this doesn’t seem right!!

          • notmyamerica

            and the other 16% are on wellfare or medicare

          • Joe

            I like the freedom we used to have. . We don’t get to keep that either, we shouldn’t have been surprised. We the people have been sleeping on the job.

          • kirby

            As in “Freedom” to be denied coverage for a pre existing condition?As in “Freedom” for the insurers to set a lifetime limit on coverage?

          • Joe

            I was referring to freedom in the grandeur scale, not just healthcare. However, to your point, those 2 benefits you mention could have been done with a 10 page piece of legislation. There is still no good reason for the other thousands of pages of bureaucratic junk that really makes makes this law unbelievably bad. I really invite you to read just the first 10 pages of the law, then think of the tax money that was used to pay someone to write that. It’s really just disgusting.

          • Joe

            Also not to be a total pest about this, but when you are reading it note some of the wording. This law has many requirements essential to it’s function, most of them are simply not being enforced under the direction of the President, which just goes to show how much of it really is useless.

          • kirby

            “Tax money”? Well what about the 24 Billion dollars the Republicans cost us taxpayers by shutting the government down? I suppose that’s different.

          • notmyamerica

            Ya nice pelosi number you drug out of your arse

          • notmyamerica

            No I think they ment like the freedom to say yes or no on health care….And just what is your pre existing condition….

        • 1606abacostu

          He killed Ambassador Stevens plus 3 seals, watched in the situation room…went to bed and then went to Vegas on a fund raiser….Are you kidding me? Impeach the S.O. B.!

          • kirby

            The Republicans cutting funding for embassy security had nothing to do with it, did it?

        • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

          Oprah worked her way to where she is now doing the same manipulation as her idol Oboz! She is another communist cunt that needs to be deported!

        • steve

          Pelosi has also said…”The road to peace ends in Damascus”…she said this as the closet Commie that masquerades as the President was giving the US away to Putin and throwing Israel under the bus….

        • beefreetwo

          THe same here ,I grew up in a dem family an back then in the sixties and seventies the party was ok an I voted for Obama in his ist term,wow what a huge mistake. he is not for America,no way he cant be. LOOK at all his lies,over n over.we are in so much debt an he lies over an over again.attacking faith based churches ,especaiily the cath church, suing his own states and states suing him.have u ever seen such division.in 2009 he said he was for marriage 1 man 1 woman an 2012 completely reversed that. Bnghazi mess,Syria mess, now Russian mess. kiliing small businesses.really now its so obvious. not to mention.IRS scandal. He says not a smidgen of evidence.yet lerner takes 5th amendment like 10 times.obamacare mess.on an on.

        • kirby

          Oh Patti please. Boehner and McConnell are as worthless as they come.

        • Gord

          It’s hasn’t been about Democrats or Republicans for a while now.

          It’s a war between someone being liberal with your earnings or you wanting to conserve what you earn and make sure the gov’t is responsible for the money we send to our lovely back stabbing Guberment.

      • RedBopete

        “If you are not a liberal at twenty, you have no heart and if you are not conservative at thirty, you have no brain.” ~ original author unknown

        • Owen Plenty

          and misquoted

          • RedBopete

            Yes, It’s my understanding that it is a variation of the quote “Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.” by Francois Guisot. I prefer this variation and feel people today can relate to it more, which is exactly why I didn’t include an author’s name for this variation. If there is no author’s name attached, it’s not really misquoted, but thanks for trying to point this out anyway.

          • LibDebunk

            It’s your quote then Red and I like it!

            I have one you might like.

            What is the only good thing to come from ObamaCare?

            Democrats can finally get the mental health help they need so bad!

          • RedBopete

            Well said, LibDebunk. Well said.

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            No the quote is, “if you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, if you are still a liberal at 40, you have no brain.”

            This one is better. “Liberalism is a mental disorder.” Michael Savage

          • RedBopete

            There are many variations of the quote – I actually like yours better!

          • shorty5704

            Michael Savage – really?

          • sage58

            Did you know that Michael Savage and sociopaths both fit the same psychological profile?
            Just found that very interesting – - -

          • LibDebunk

            But true child! Oh so true!

      • Raymond Covit

        changing from noble ideals to selfish lies is nothing to brag about….

        • LibDebunk

          You deceiver-in-chief is the liar. How about Mr. “I didn’t have relations with that woman”! You party is the party of liars and beggars! I’m sure my tax dollars are paying for you and your kids right now! Get a job and pay into the system Raymond!

          • Laffing Crow

            You have got to be kidding me! Didn’t you forget Mr. “Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction”?

            Are you seriously trying to say that Obama lying us into health insurance is worse than Bush lying us into war?

          • bw

            President Bush utilized the information he had available and the entire Congress agreed with it to authorize military action, both Democrats and Republicans.

            Yes – Obama is worse.

          • ShamrockRancher

            You forgot to mention Saddam wouldn’t let UN inspectors in and also that he kept advertising that ‘HE HAD THEM, come and invade, and I’ll use them.’

          • sage58

            Actually, they voted on giving the president the “authority”, not on the war itself.

          • Arian Smith

            Obama is just Bush on steroids. Hes outspending and out lying him by leaps and bounds. So you ought to be unhappy with Bush and even more unhappy with Obama. But your blinders will be on until the moment you march lock step with your little lemming buddies right off a cliff.

          • bob3653

            If you were too young to remember, you should have done some research and you would have found that President Bush had unanimous backing from both Houses of Congress and most democratic leaders, including “what difference at this point does it make” Clinton. When will you lame brained liberals quit blaming him for all of liberalism’s failures?

          • Laffing Crow

            Yes, you’re right, he did. Were both Houses of Congress told the truth? Did Colin Powell tell the truth to the UN? Telling me that Congress backed him after they were lied to doesn’t support your argument, it supports mine. He lied us into a war.

            My big question now is, do you think it is possible for you or any or your fellow brethren here to write a reply to someone without calling them names? Can any of you actually have a calm debate on the merits of a topic without resorting to attacking the character of the people you disagree with?

          • sam

            calling a liar a liar is not ”calling names”. or is it?

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            You people are too stupid. How did Bush lie? The weapons were there and we knew it. They were later found in Africa. Why does that matter anyway. Saddam had to go. The Iraq war was a good thing. More troops have died under Obama than Bush because at least Bush did not leave them ill-equipped. Obama has lied, abandoned troops, and spent more of our money and put is in more debt than ANY president before him. Is Obamacare what you call giving us insurance??? As far as I can tell, less people have it now than before the law, it costs more, provides less care, and cannot even be acquired if you want it. He does not care about getting people care, he cares about distributing wealth through healthcare or climate change, ruining the American health care system and forcing us to be dependent on gov hc, and devaluing the dollar. Try reading up on your Nazi history and you can see where we are headed next. The dollar is printed so much with nothing to back it, it will soon be worthless.

          • Laffing Crow

            What a darling little rant. Feel better now?

            By the way, good one with the “How did Bush lie?”, too, too funny. Also, “The Iraq war was a good thing.” and “Bush did not leave them ill-equipped.” Don’t you remember Rumsfeld’s explanation for why the troops were so ill equipped? “You go to war with the Army you have”. Never mind that they ramped up a year before they invaded. You must not have paid close attention during the Bush years.

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            No. I would feel better if you had the balls to say that to my face you queer. Or if you did not have the right to vote. Some people liked Hitler and Moussolini too, remember what happened to them? Keep it up jackass. the Iraq war was a good thing. Killing Saddam was a good thing. Bin laden was killed based on intel from the waterboarding and Bush years. So what did Bush do when the troops were ill-equipped, he sent them more troops and equipment. He did not leave them there to die like your ignorant fuhrer. Your president will go down in history as the absolute worst of all time. Can’t wait till 2014 and 2016 to clean house and make you stupid little losers crawl back in your holes. This is America, and we DO NOT want socialism. It does not work and never has. Why do all you libtards come on FOX if you dont want to watch FOX? I guess it is true, liberalism is a mental disorder.

          • JoeKirkup

            This is not about Bush as much as you would like to change the subject and make it so. It’s about your commie, two bit god who is doing his level best to destroy the country. Let’s all take a vote here on the geographic partitioning of America. The libs can have their half with all the communism and illegal parasites they want. We’ll keep our guns, our constitution and our liberty. If you agree give this post an up vote.
            Joe Kirkup
            22 Calvin Ave
            Lehigh Acres, FL
            239-896-0276
            [email protected]

          • Scott Page

            Considering I was in the military when all this was happening, where did you get that they were ramping up a year in advance? Nice try, yet another liberal lie!

          • AlexandraEvangeline

            “The were later found in Africa.” LOL!!!! Check a map, much? //// Change the channel, and learn about the Health Care Law. It doesn’t have as many problems as Fox News is telling you. It will get straightened out, and people will figure out that Fox News exaggerated AGAIN.

          • manmadeclimatechangeisbs

            It doesn’t have as many problems??? So people did not lose their healthcare? Rates did not go up over 100% on average? Part time workers did not have their hours cut? Full time workers were not made part time? The website works? The regime didn’t know it didn’t work? It is not a means to an end of the healthcare industry as stated by der fuhrer in 2003? Last I checked the missiles were either found in Africa or Pakistan. Perhaps you should change the channel to FOX so you can actually learn something, unless that is you are a died in the wool socialist, in which case you can go fuck yourself!

          • Stephen

            They went to Syria. That’s in Asia. And then they got used in the civil war there.
            The weird part is the D’Rats (many of whom voted to authorize the war in Iraq) want to deny the weapons existed, and also use them for an excuse to take action in Syria. Either they exist or they don’t.

          • 1606abacostu

            Obama’s goal all along is to make us a third world….we use more than our share of resources..he’s laughing at us stupid Americans…ObamaCare was never designed to work…It’s going to cost us approx. 1 billion and then Single payer will be on the Horizon along with carbon tax/climate change..bull shit..etc. He should have been impeached for Benghazi not to mention…IRS…NSA….He lied to his employer…us Taxpayers! Wait, he’ll get to the bottom….yea..bull shit liar!

          • firftrmark

            It isn’t as far as you can tell people have less, it is a fact. Under this administration the only ones doing good are in the stock market. Wages ,jobs, annual income are all down, government dependency up.

          • ShamrockRancher

            That’s funny. Those weapons turned up in Syria.

          • chaz

            Hey laffing crow..tell me this who is talking about which was the biggest lie? We are talking about Obama being a liar regardless of whoever else may also be a liar.

          • JoeKirkup

            So… if I read your comment right, you are agreeing that Obama is a lying piece of crap and your defense of him is based on the assumption that Bush did something worse. Stalin killed more people than Hitler so Adolph is a good guy??

          • msbets

            YOUR DEMONRATS/COMMIES VOTED TO GO TO WAR!!!, PRESIDENT BUSH, CHECKED ALL THE BLOCKS BEFORE HE DID IT SHYT FACE………NOT LIKE ovmit did in Libya, this filth just takes it’s poison pen!!! so stfu and get the hell out of here!!! your nothin but a useful marxist idiot!!

          • SylvieFeatherfoot

            Some of us objected mightily to President Bush and object likewise to President Obama. We don’t like lies, from anyone. We don’t like overweening government – TSA, Homeland Security, Obamacare. A plague on both statist parties.

          • Raymond Covit

            The parties all lie. the blue and the red teams are both against the common person.

          • 1606abacostu

            So now President Equivocation spends another 1.1 million or so to collect good stories of ObamaCare…WTF….He spends 100 million on his latest vacation..so, wtf…Clower/Pivens….overload the system…Let’s make Obamacare a suppository for the “Liar in Chief!”

      • LibDebunk

        mjohnson

        Me too. I was a young democrat full of ideals when I was in collage. Now that I have grown older and wiser over time I realize that capitalism created this great nation. The government can’t even run the social programs it already has. That anybody can be anything they want and should not be punished for success!

        I voted for John McCain, but now consider him a RHINO!

        • AlexandraEvangeline

          It would be good if you could spell college.

          • Jace Curioso

            LibDebunk said he/she was ‘in’ college….never said he/she grad-e-ated (hats off to Granny Clampett)

          • LibDebunk

            More liberals attacking the messenger and not the message! Only one letter wrong in the whole statement and you run with it Mr. Perfect! Fuck off asshole!

          • msbets

            IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE WERE ALL PERFECT LIKE YOU……….

          • Joe French

            Isn’t that the truth? Ooops, new age college grad.

          • LibDebunk

            And you’re to stupid to spell graduate!!!!

          • kirby

            LibDebunk….. Please!
            “Too” would be the correct word. Not “To”

          • LibDebunk

            Out of everything I typed you pick up on one word not spelled right! You are a asshole!

          • kirby

            Not spelled correctly would be the proper response LibDebunk. And you are AN asshole would be correct. Tell us again, which college did you attend?

          • William Liddle

            Move on skippy….your tiring repertoire is getting stale.

        • Scott Page

          I have this saying:

          If you are young and a republican, you have no heart, but if you are old and a democrat, you have no brain!

          • kirby

            Scott… Your little “Saying” is so cute. Sadly for you, it reflects on your IQ level, which is minimal.

          • William Liddle

            Again….still higher than yours.

        • kirby

          Libdebunk…. Sorry we can’t buy your cute little story. You can’t even spell college.

      • ANGRY LEPRECHAUN

        I concur sir!

      • gcole22

        Mitch McConnell is also a RINO and needs to be defeated and how about Lindsey Graham?

      • ditchdigger

        I saw it in ’77, left the Democrat/Communist party, also a union member. Chose loyalty to country, honor over corruption.

      • BQRealityBites

        John McCain is not a Republican – he’s an embarrassment to either party!

      • hurling

        Me too. I’m 57 I switched at about age 26 or so. I was a member of Greenpiece and Sierra Club. Got out of the Navy and had seen what Jimmy Carter had done to it..

      • kirby

        Yeah right mj. Everybody knows the republicans never lie. HaHa.
        If you believe that big oil should get tax payer subsidies, sure, vote republican. If you believe that US corporations should get tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, vote republican,

    • Patti1947

      Anyone that would vote for another Democrat after forcing this Obamacare lie on all of us, needs to get their head examined. Don’t think for a minute they didn’t know that we were going to lose our plans back in 2010 when this passed. They just didn’t care and held out admitting it, until they could not hide it any longer….. Lets get the democrats all out in 2014 and 2016. don’t bother voting for Hillary either in 2016. She wanted this passed years ago when Clinton was in office. She is another lying sack of you know what… She is also an accessory to murder from the people that were killed in Benghazi…. WE need new leaders running this country, not all the corrupt ones in Washington now.Wake up America…. Obama is trying to kill us all ….God help us PLEASE………

    • Raymond Covit

      of coarse they are liars, as are all corporate paid actors(politicians)
      We are a powerful nation , but in being selfish we are falling fast.
      governments need only to meet the needs of the coming populations, that does not include a budget like a household or even a biz. the future must be built and it cannot be done on todays money. Invest in our future by building it. Money is only to keep score. within our borders we don’t need to keep score, we need to utilize our population so they can feed themselves.
      the parties are being used as a tool to make us fools. our masters (the sucessful germanic/scandinavian/nordic nations ,are laughing at their cash cows as we wallow in our prescription meds and shoot each other.
      Switzerland is voting wether or not to give a check for $2800 to every adult in switzerland monthly, on top of their wages , healthcare education and retirement they get now. And we argue wether we should get our jollies letting kidds starve in our nation because they were born to, surprise, uneducated parents.

    • Patti1947

      I would like to thank Obama for finally opening the American people’s eyes as to what he really is A LIAR….. Obamacare is NOT his first lie to all of us and it won’t be the last. He is hell bent on destroying this great country and I can’t wait until 2014 so that the republicans can have control of Congress and the Senate. 2016 can’t come fast enough…. PLEASE people don’t fall for Hillary Clinton as President. She is just corrupt at Obama and is a liar, greedy corrupt, politician, who only cares about money and power. I am so sick of the Clintons. Hopefully Obama has ruined any chance for the democrats in the Senate and Hillary for President.

    • Pissed Off

      The Dems will Still get all the black and Latino vote and will still get all the Union money plus every Socialist like George Soros who is getting the scam and slush fund money Obama. They are draining “The Exchanges” for campaign money thus the Socialist (Democrats) will still swamp and defeat most (enough) Republicans. They will keep the Senate and gain the House and Hillary will Get elected President and double down on Obama Care.
      Note that is all these comments people keep saying Democrat. They correct term for Obama, Clinton, Harry Reid, Pelosi is Socialist. If you can not know your opponent then you lose the battle before it starts.

    • bobkhane

      They have not lost to low information voters who are on gifts for votes. Those people represent more than 51% so that means they are in and people who work and pay taxes are out.

    • old409

      The Democrats haven’t lost in 2014 and 2016 because the U.S. is full of stupid,ignorant people that have no idea of what is going on. The Democrat politicians exist and thrive on public ignorance and a few freebies passed out to those that won’t work and take care of themselves,those with low self esteem.

      Sad to say, the U.S. is done for. We are being dragged into Third World status by cunning Democrat politicians and their ignorant,lazy followers.

    • Michael Coats

      You’re problem is that you believe one side over the other. Haven’t you grown up enough to figure out they both lie? Independent is the way to go. You owe neither party an allegiance, what have either done for you?

    • kirby

      Very funny Michael. Mitt lied so much even he couldn’t remember what he said. The Republicans last two slates of candidates were comical. We can’t wait to see who they nominate this time. It is sure to be another clown show.

    • ATrober

      Trouble is the GOP has lost it, too. So, all we really have is two losing options.

    • Phil

      I’m afraid they have the stealing elections thing down.
      Do you really think he won 2012 fairly?

    • kirby

      Dream on Mikey. The Republicans will not be in the White House for a very very long time.

  • D. Nic

    Obama is nothing but a black POS criminal thug!!!!!! This disgusting POS is a terrorist… You ignorant morons that believe this POS,, just wait your time is coming…. You will be crying ohhhhhh he lied and now I am not going to get my free money, free food, dumbas*ess……..

    • Cyberkada

      criminal thug: yes. Black: no. Arab Muslim: yes

      • DisagreeMuch?

        No, Obama is a Black-White African-American

        • Daniel P Hanover

          No. I believe he said he’s an Arab Muslim. That’s why he’s giving nearly half a billion dollars of taxpayer money to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Why else would he call them “My Brothers” ?

    • JonFraudCarry

      What does “Black” have to do with this Marxist? Keep your idiot ideas to yourself.

      • ConradCA

        He uses his blackness as a weapon against those who complain about is failures and disastrous anti-american policies.

        • Daniel P Hanover

          Correct ! If you oppose him on philosophical grounds, or policy grounds, he immediately calls you a “RACIST” !

    • mencik

      I thought it wasn’t about race…..

  • Theresa

    We didn’t lose our health plan through our employer but all of our premiums went up and our coinsurance went up. They were already high to begin with…

    • Val

      I think I read that many businesses will keep insurance for employees this coming year but cancel in 2015. We have insurance through my husband’s work. It was really great insurance. Last year we had a family yearly deduct of 250.00. This coming year it increased to 1000.00. Co-pay at docs office went from 25.00 to 45.00. My friend’s insurance (through her work) deduct went from 400.00 per family member to 2000.00 per family member. My husband and I have already said we will not sign up for Obamacare when we lose insurance through his work. (because eventually employers are going to stop offering insurance).

      • shorty5704

        Okay.

    • mencik

      Premiums have got up significantly every year before Obamacare. The Cadillac tax does not go into effect until 2018, so if any employer tells you that is why the rates went up, they are lying. There is a reinsurance fee for this and the next two years, but it amounts to 1% or less. So, if they blame the big increase on that, they are also lying.

      The real issue is the big insurance companies want to raise rates and blame Obamacare so that people vote Republican in Nov. 2014. However, if they don’t spend 85% of those revenues they bring in on actual healthcare, then they will have to rebate the excess.

      It is the insurance companies that don’t like the law because of the limit on profits and the extra paperwork that are driving up the rates in order to foster public hate. It is not your employer or the law that forcing up the rates.

      • ConradCA

        Insurance companies raise rates because ObamaCare requires that they provide more services. Quite trying to blame them for the results of ObamaCare. That is how the Tyrant and his band of progressive fascist supports lied to get ObamaCare passed.

      • shorty5704

        Mencik, please don’t confuse these posters with facts and logic.

        • mencik

          Don’t worry, I’m not. My wife works in the medical insurance field, so I get the inside scoop. Many of the companies are jacking up rates knowing full well they will have to give rebates at the end of the year when they don’t use 85% of the premiums for actual health care costs. They are doing this because: 1) They have use of your money all year at no interest, and more importantly 2) It will piss people off and they will blame Obamacare and thus vote GOP in 11/14. The rebates will come in early 2015, and then people will think that is as a result of electing GOP folks that are going to repeal the law. It just boggles my mind that people can’t see what is really going on.

  • Duke of URL

    I am SO thankful that between being 66 and under VA care, I am not subject to this horrible Obamabortion!

    • betspotter

      No, but you will be hit with rationing instead.

      • allah_speaking

        and politicians will start to be hit with bullets…

        • Dani

          Sometimes I think that’s what they’re TRYING for… to get us so hopeless and frustrated that we revolt… and then they can put the country on lockdown, pass laws which will make it illegal to own a gun, and send our own military after us… it’ll be another Civil War.

      • Duke of URL

        Pfft. OBVIOUSLY you’ve never had to negotiate through the VAMC system… Lucky you.

        • betspotter

          No. I’m not a veteran, but I do thank you for your service. I wish our country was treating you better.

          • Duke of URL

            Eh, I don’t fuss about it. I didn’t enlist for retirement benefits, I joined the Navy to see the world, visit exotic places, and meet interesting people. I did. Would do it all over again.

    • Bernardo Stevens

      Yeah, good luck. You know who Dr Ezekial Emmanuelle is? Rahm’s brother. Obama hired him to “advise” him on medical ethics.

      Dr Emmanuel famously believes that medical resources should not be wasted on people under 15 and over 40! You’ll see.

      • ConradCA

        They will add their enemies to those who won’t receive medical treatment.

    • Ron S

      I am also in that position but wise enough to know he’s coming for us too. We are all just sitting and watching our country being destroyed.

      • Duke of URL

        Not all of us. Did you know that reloaders and powder are relatively cheap these days?

        • exdem

          where do you get your brass?

  • Lex Gnosticos

    The PATHOLOGICAL LIAR and his brain dead azz kissing minions strike again, this debacle just keeps getting better and better. The Dems better know they are in deep crap, unfortunately they are dragging all of us in with this abomination. Obey the Constitution, this legislation is void as a matter of law.
    Impeach and Recall.

    • Daniel P Hanover

      I agree.

  • LibDebunk

    Now he is giving Unions a pass! WTF! How can he ignore a law he is obligated to enforce with no accountability? How can he pick and choose who has to comply? Isn’t that braking the law? This country I served and love has gone down the toilet the last four years! I fear it will not recover from this Obamanation!!!

    • Bernardo Stevens

      Yup. That will buy them off. Soon he’ll give everyone else a subsidy. Where will them money come from? They won’t care.

      • Daniel P Hanover

        American taxpayers.

    • singcanary

      A President CANNOT amend a law…it is not in his power. Congress has that power only. So he IS breaking the law. Valerie Jarrett is dismantling our military. WHY is this not front and center on the news. 200 top brass are being let go and Obummer is replacing them with his useless people with no experience. THIS is why he has been building his OWN personal civilian army and stashing Ammo and guns for them. Didn’t Hilter do this? 10 top Generals he relieved from their duty. AND Nuclear ones. Smells very fishy to me. He is destroying the America we know on purp[ose. Now he is pushing Angenda 21 and the UN wants a universal gun registry and then confiscation. HOW DUMB CAN AMERICANS BE NOT SEEING THIS HAPPENING.

      • Daniel P Hanover

        WOO-HOO ! “CHANGE you can believe in !” :) Run, Obammy, Run ! :)

    • Daniel P Hanover

      He is also pushing the mandates a year into 2014 in direct violation of the federal law that he signed. Legally, he cannot do that. He apparently thinks he’s a dictator and can simply rule by decree, ignoring both Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

    • Arimathean

      Because the ACA gives the President the power to issue exemptions at his discretion. Obama has used this authority to benefit his cronies – especially his union supporters. (Obamacare is a protection racket – pay up, or Obama will let Obamacare ruin your business.) Romney was going to use that same authority to grant a blanket exemption to EVERYONE. Too bad he didn’t get the chance . . .

      • ConradCA

        Are you sure the bill gives him that power?

  • Greg

    Just wait until the employer mandate. Not a single healthcare plan will pass. The reason? No plans offered by employers have a NO CAP on drug and mental illness treatment. And to pay for that is going to be very expensive and is going to cause all plan premiums to skyrocket.

    • Bernardo Stevens

      Obamacare is also supposed to cover alternative medicine in any state where it’s licensed. So in state where acupunture is licensed…it will cover that. And, of course, drug rehab and all kinds of mental therapies.

      What’s that? You would prefer NOT to pay for that stuff? Too damn bad.

    • disqus_WhpgSMAxfs

      My coverage (that I would very much like to keep) is through my husband’s employer. It is considered (for Obamacare purposes) a “cadillac” plan, and to keep it someone will have to pay a 40% “penalty”. It’s still unclear just who pays the penalty-employer or employee.

  • Judy Hart

    Lost our jobs & our healthcare. If he would just come to my house & personally slap me in the face….

  • Heidi May

    If I had one wish, I would wish that the people in this wonderful country would wake up and realize that they have helped destroy what once was great and now may never recover from their votes….so very sad

    • betspotter

      We can recover in 2014 by keeping the house, taking back the Senate, and removing the smirk from Obama’s face. Then, we can pass remedial bills, dare Obama not to sign them. 2016. We can still pull out of this, but the other half of the country will be against us. They want free.

      • Heidi May

        the ones that want free from the government will never vote to give that up, they think they are entitled to free because of supposed wrongs done to them before anyone now alive was born… this country needs a hero to rescue us (a hero could be one or many) or maybe people will realize that it is not free, someone is paying for it…right, who am I fooling…just want my kids to have the the rights and freedoms I grew up with, not too much to ask for…at least I hope it is not too much

        • betspotter

          I understand your fear about your babies. I feel the same. It’s frustrating to realize, as individuals, we can only do so much to protect them.

        • Dani

          Maybe we should just turn and look again to the same Hero to whom our founding fathers looked.

      • allah_speaking

        All it takes is 51 votes in the Senate and Obamacare is dead.
        The magic words are budget reconciliation.

        • David C Kelder

          What about presidential veto? If there is a way around this, let us all know . I will carry the water.

          • Arimathean

            After the Republicans take control of the Senate, they can impeach Obama. If President Biden wants to run for re-election, he could give his electoral chances quite a boost by letting the repeal of Obamacare become law.

          • ConradCA

            We can impeach Biden for refusing to kill ObamaCare.

        • ConradCA

          Not 51 unless we have the presidency. We need enough votes to override a veto and that is 67.

          Only other way is to refuse to pass any bill, budget or expand the debt limit until ObamaCare is dead. Obama is trying to save ObamaCare by illegally changing the law to minimize the consequences of his incompetence and lying. Republicans should insist that ObamaCare be killed before accepting any of his illegal “changes” and refuse to modify ObamaCare. The only acceptable change should be killing ObamaCare.

  • Cynthia Jaeger

    What the Hell does he care. He and his family are above this, they are taken care of.
    Also so are Senators and Congressmen. Don’t you know they are GODS and they can’t be with us lowly people.

  • DadC

    Any RINO that allowed the opening of the government without getting something substantial from th elect on this pos is responsible for it’s continuation. Any member of congress who. Has accepted a kickback to cover their healthcare is responsible for this pos continuing.

  • Gary

    Obama has broken the law by changing the ACA more times than a baby with diarrhea and he is full of the same thing that the diapers would be full of. Anyone that doesn’t realize that Obama’s plan was to deceive this nation and make everyone miserable to create a “legacy” for himself (and apparently he doesn’t care if that “legacy” is good or bad) has a larger shoe size than his/her IQ.

    • Daniel P Hanover

      WOO-HOO ! “CHANGE you can believe in !” :)

  • Bernardo Stevens

    Doesn’t matter. When enough people get mad, he’ll give them all subsidies. That will mollify them and they’ll continue to vote for more freebies.

  • Thomas Doyle

    Sillibus is too silly for her job..

  • CalifGirlInMaine

    More people will be uninsured by the effects of Obamacare, than the number of uninsured for whom this “affordable care act” was supposed to provide coverage.

  • rpattersn

    This is the moment in time to force this SOB to stand his ground. If my current healthcare gets cancelled (which I pay 469 a month for out of MY pocket and am VERY happy with !!) I will NOT “shop” or “buy” the “Messiah’s” alternative !! And, I will NOT pay the IRS penalty !!! If current estimates are right, regarding how many millions of people will be cancelled and threatened, and we all stand together on this, then what’s this “bastard child” going to do …. you can’t put us all in jail because there aren’t enough cells for us all !! I want you all to think back when he was quoting and praising MLK !!! This is our opportunity to put into practice “passive civil disobedience” as MLK taught us. Martin Luther King is rolling in his grave watching this travesty that Obama is foisting on America !!! Shame on you Barack (and I will never, ever honor you with the term “President” or even “Mr.” . You are the lowest form of life as were all your “Hitleresque” mentors !!! F**K YOU :-))

    • Bmtn

      The message at the top of my tax return this spring tagged my family as “medicaid.” Not “eligible to shop around and see what you want in healthcare” but stating that we would be medicaid recipients. Since our income is so low, our projected penalty is $0. We are opting for the penalty.

      I wrote my congressman about expanding the religious exemption to all people who conscientiously object to this disaster. (He hasn’t answered.) The current waiver does nothing for people of faith like myself who do not have church membership. Even if I join a church, I don’t want DHHS and the IRS, HS, NSA, etc. to have the names and addresses of church leaders and their addresses, as well as the church address. Non-religious people need protection as well.

      Also, the DHHS allows “home visits” by social workers for people who are on Medicaid, who have a family member who is in the military, etc. The purpose is supposedly to “determine at-risk people and behaviors.” Can you imagine the mess when they start that?

    • shorty5704

      Don’t like having a Black man in the white house, huh!. Sounds like he’s driving you to madness. Calm down, it’ll all be okay. I’m sure you’ll like Hillary.

    • Daniel P Hanover

      I’ve been saying the exact same thing for a long time. I will NOT take part in OBAMACARE, and I will NOT pay any fine. What’s he going to do ? Throw millions of Americans in federal prison ?

    • ConradCA

      There is no way for them to collect the fines if you minimize the money withheld for taxes.

  • Jbird

    IMPEACH his ass!!!

  • Johnny Roberts

    I would like to slap this big eared marxist off his ass. He is going to destroy our great country and we are letting him. It is a sad day for our country!

  • Independence_R_US

    This is why I’m against postponing this fiasco. The quicker it goes onto effect the quicker we can do something to kill it & to get the liberal cancer out of our society.

  • Aussie

    I am retired, although I worked for an Employee Owned and Self Insured company thru Blue Cross. My Insurance for a family of 5 was $32.00 a month for Medical, Dental, Optical and Prescription. 200.00 yearly family deductible, with a maximum payout of 1000.00 out of pocket. Obama Please Tell My Past Employees how this is a Substandard Policy!!!

  • mike

    Typical liberal logic…….they have always claimed ObamaCare would provide coverage for the 40 million Americans who do not have healthcare….so, 95 million people who work and contribute through taxes will lose their coverage so 40 million who don’t work can have insurance. Obama’s ultimate aim is single payer; complete govt. control of health insurance which is the first step in socialism; the 2nd is disarming the general population; the third is control of the media which is about 90% there already.

  • Squre

    Still one of my favorite presidents.

    • Proud Conservative

      Then you sir or madam are a complete ass!

  • Scott Goodwin

    My guess is that roughly 80% of the posters either voted for obama or didn’t vote at all. The Republican voters caused this when they chose to sit out the last two elections. Maybe in 2016 we will think more about the country than our own hurt feelings?

  • Michael C. Guinn

    So, a message to all of the Federal Government Employees. Your Unions, National Association of Letter Carriers being one, fully supported Obamacare and Obama himself. Now the price is going to be paid. It looks like Federal employes could possibly lose their Federal Employee Health Benefit Plans. Being a Federal retiree myself and who has never voted for Obamaor any Democrat for more than twenty years, I am pissed. Federal employees will get what they voted for.

  • singcanary

    A President CANNOT amend a law, so Obama giving the unions a pass is illegal…it is not in his power to do this with the law he established. Congress has that power only. So he IS breaking the law. Valerie Jarrett is dismantling our military. WHY is this not front and center on the news. 200 top brass are being let go and Obummer is replacing them with his useless people with no experience. THIS is why he has been building his OWN personal civilian army and stashing Ammo and guns for them. Didn’t Hilter do this? 10 top Generals he relieved from their duty. AND Nuclear ones. Smells very fishy to me. He is destroying the America we know on purp[ose. Now he is pushing Angenda 21 and the UN wants a universal gun registry and then confiscation. HOW DUMB CAN AMERICANS BE NOT SEEING THIS HAPPENING.

  • John DeSilva

    I’m not worried about anything I’m going to live with Obama (sarcasm)

  • Nick68

    I agree that no Republican should have let it get this far, however we need to play the devils advocate card. If they opposed it, the media would have been all over them and the Democrats would have told the American people that the big bad Republicans don’t care about the uninsured!! Everyone would still be begging for Obamacare. The public had to see what a bad program this is and how it would hurt so many Americans. They needed to feel it and realize that Obama was lying. The Republicans could have saved America the grief, but no one would have been able to appreicate it. Hopefully now the message is clear and that there is some way out of this downward spiral!

  • maxwell_brown

    goodbye dumocrats in 2014…..look for ya under the short bus……odummy sold you out…….

  • Waynerae Smith

    Democrats have a problem, they have a credibility problem, it is like taking a hillbilly making him a millionaire and watch him implode… this president has shot not only himself in the foot but every democrat too……. they are coming into 2014 and 2016 on crutches… hobbling on the stage trying to promise to redo everything this president has screwed up.

  • Ohiogunr

    Republicans in the House of Representatives tried to stop this disaster, but DEMOCRATS in the Senate marched lockstep in holding America HOSTAGE over what they KNEW WAS not going to work. Throw out DEMOCRATS, Obama na d Obamacare. IT will bust us if it’s not KILLED!

  • NRS1957

    A storm is coming.

    • Out2Sea

      Yep, but what we really need is a plague to wipe out the stupid among us .

  • lj

    Democrats own this. They gutted a bill that had nothing to do with Healthcare it was a Housing bill. How can that even be legal? The House Leader Pelosi did not give the House time to read the gutted bill and even gloated “You have to pass it to read it”. This is for control over a sixth of our economy. I would say the American public was hoodwinked into losing our great healthcare for something that is miserably lacking in healthcare but big on control.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3590:
    There are 7 versions of Bill Number H.R.3590 for the 111th Congress. Usually, the last item is the most recent.
    1 . Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009 (Introduced in House – IH)[H.R.3590.IH][PDF]
    2 . Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] – EH)[H.R.3590.EH][PDF]
    3 . Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009 (Placed on Calendar Senate – PCS)[H.R.3590.PCS][PDF]
    4 . Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Amendment in Senate – AS)[H.R.3590.AS][PDF]
    5 . Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Public Print – PP)[H.R.3590.PP][PDF]
    6 . Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Engrossed Amendment Senate – EAS)[H.R.3590.EAS][PDF]
    7 . Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] – ENR)[H.R.3590.ENR][PDF]H.R.3590 — Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Amendment in Senate – AS)

  • Mark Thomson

    looks like he and the rest of em are in the pockets of the insurers

  • William LaSalle

    The government of the United States has forgotten the citizens of the United States are not slaves.

    The government of the United States, our NSA, and CIA deserve every bad comment they receive.

    If the opinion of everyone in the world toward the United States since 2008 has not changed, they are not paying attention.

    Every one of our Senators and Representatives is just as much to blame for our War on Terror, the bills that strip us of our basic Human Rights and Freedoms, all of our Federal Agencies being corrupt, and the one hundred scandals since Obama took office.

    Obamacare is a horrible insurance scam with fifty new taxes hidden inside.

    The Tea Party is right.

    Obama, Biden, every elected and appointed official in Washington, DC including every official in our Judicial Branch of government is wrong, They are all violatting their Oath of Office, and every one of them should be fired, or fired and arrested.

    The Patriot Act, Obamacare, the NDAA, and the Cyber Security Bill should all be repealed and burned.

  • Bobbie Evoy

    Remember ‘WAY BACK ABOUT 3 weeks ago’ when ‘THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE’ were ridiculed for ‘TRYING’ to stop Obamacare? Yeah, yeah…………that was THE REPUBLICANS trying to save us from this!

  • Glenn Mason

    glad i moved to a foreign country where health care is a hell of a lot cheaper and covers every thing at 20 % of USA HEALTH CARE

    • ConradCA

      You get what you pay for.

  • Steve

    Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Back to The Constitution beliefs. We The People Rule & we had better start acting like it at the polls !

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      amen brother, preach on

  • Celia Lysek

    I just recently took the company insurance so that I wouldn’t have to worry about Obama care and fines. Less than a month later was told, This plan will be canceled on Dec 31, it don’t meet Obama care standards. Heck I could have saved my money till Dec to pay the fines for the first year. :(

  • mencik

    If employers drop their plans, that is the fault of the employers, not Obama or the law. It is the rich corporations once again shoveling shit on the little guy.

    • jackooo41

      Employers are trying to cut costs. Would you not want them to do that?

    • ConradCA

      The insurance companies are forced to drop the plans because of ObamaCare. The new ObamaCare plans are much more expensive that previous one so corporations are facing a choice of going out of business or finding some way to save money. Many are dropping their employees families because ObamaCare allows it, others are reducing hours to less than 30 so they won’t have to provide this insurance and still others will stop providing insurance all together.

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      if anything costs more than employers can afford, they will drop it. Not just medical plans, but Christmas parties, separation packages, catered business meetings, or anything else.
      the plans they are dropping are lousy plans forced upon them by legislation that DEMOCRATS passed without reading it.
      think about it… if they wanted to drop coverage before obamacare because they are greedy and uncaring, they wouldn’t have needed an excuse to do it, it would have just happened.

  • John Dixon

    Hey at the end of the day….who elected them all to office. WE DID! Take heed the only way for anything to happen is to go and run for office and see if the taste of making a lot of money via bribes and back room deals don’t entice you. I am saying it is wrong for that to happen but it does none the less. Vote them all out…I and the rest of us do a lot of talking but we don’t do anything about it. I don’t have the money nor the capacity to be a back stabber and a cheat. So who’s next.

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      WE, CORPORATLEY ELECTED HIM… I VOTED AGAINST HIM, THEREFORE I EARNED THE RIGHT TO BITCH ABOUT WHAT HE DOES.

  • mabera19

    LIES are like cockroaches–for everyone found, there are 100 hiding!!!

  • amps

    Seriously, how stupid has the American Citizenry become to allow this? Our liberties are being stripped from us every day and nobody cares. This country is done.

    • jackooo41

      They are very stupid.

  • Laffing Crow

    What a sad, idiotic little article. Doesn’t even mention that you now can’t be excluded for pre-existing conditions, no cap on payouts, you can keep your child on your insurance up till age 26, insurance companies have to spend 80% of premiums on healthcare, etc. All of this makes every insurance plan in the country better than it was before. It also doesn’t mention that Republicans are responsible for a huge part of the populace missing out on Medicaid and subsidies because they rejected the expansion in their states.

    Republicans came up with this plan in the first place but for some reason(????) have done everything in their power to make it fail. They have basically been systematically removing pieces of the Obamacare train track and are now trying to claim that the “train wreck” is all on the Democrats.

    • Julie Reising-Altenau

      Um, actually you can be excluded for anything that happened to you before you signed up for insurance, that is if you can. As far as the caps, that has been put on hold by Obama. I simply ask, if this plan is so great, why are there so many waivers granted to the Obama faithful? Further, if the plan was so great, why lie to pass the law? Frankly, most of the people signing up are signing up for Medicaid. Big Fail.

      • Laffing Crow

        Wrong. You cannot be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition. The caps have not been put on hold. The employer mandate was put on hold. Oh, and those people signing up for Medicaid had nothing before. I don’t think this plan is so great, it’s too convoluted and still keeps insurances companies who are only interested in their profit margin between us and healthcare. This doesn’t really give Americans healthcare it gives us insurance. Big difference. As we are seeing, an insurance company will take advantage of every loophole they can in order to increase profits.

        My amusement comes from the fact that this is a Republican plan straight from the Heritage Foundation and all the Republicans HATE it! Why? That’s why they abandoned “Repeal and Replace”. They haven’t been able to come up with “their own plan” because this is it. I wish just one Republican could explain how they would do it!

        • ConradCA

          You progressive fascists are so transparent in trying to share the blame for ObamaCare with the Republicans. The fact is that while someone at the Heritage Foundation may have thought up some of the ideas behind ObamaCare Republicans never supported it. They never supported ObamaCare because they wisely knew that it would be a disaster for our country and we are finding out now that it is.

          Just wait until a 100 million people have their policies cancelled. Your going to find out how angry the American people are at the progressive fascists for ObamaCare in 2014. Hopefully there will be enough anger to impeach Tyrant Obama and kill ObamaCare.

      • ConradCA

        If the plan was so great then why do people have to be forced into it by cancelling their current plans?

  • Corey Cole

    I have no idea where you’re getting this nonsense about people losing their plans. Everyone (about 10 friends and family) I have talked to has gotten letters from their health care providers emphasizing that they are grandfathered and have the right to stay on their current plans. The tone of the letters is the insurers begging people to stay on their own plans.

    The reason for this, of course, is that many of those previous plans suck and are bad deals. I am switching off mine to a “Silver” plan because I will get equivalent coverage and save $300/month. I was on that plan because I had no choice due to a minor chronic condition (asthma) – Every other insurer said, “Oh, you have a preexisting condition. Go away.”

    My wife had similar problems getting any insurance at all because she uses (inexpensive) thyroid medicine and has had calcium deposits show up in breast x-rays (NO cancer and NO actual health problem). The only coverage she was able to get was an emergency-only high-deductible plan, and she only got that on appeal after an initial refusal.

    However good or bad Obamacare may be, it’s an improvement over the old completely-broken healthcare system. Most people who did not have guaranteed coverage through an employer (we’re both self-employed) got very poor coverage or none at all.

    This business about people losing their old healthcare is much-repeated bullshit. If their old plans are ineligible under Obamacare, it’s because they are really bad, ripoff plans that took advantage of people’s lack of choice. Has this even happened? A lot of my friends have talked about people losing their coverage, but on questioning, zero of them have actually received such a notice or personally know anyone who has.

  • Ben Dover

    That’s why the employer mandate was postponed until after the 2014 election. Can you imagine being a Democrat up for re-election if 93 million Americans were losing their employer provided healthcare plans between now and the election? THAT is why Obama postponed the employer mandate.

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      EXACTLY.

    • ConradCA

      If the insurance companies were smart they would send out cancellation notices 6 months ahead of time along with bills for ObamaCare compliant replacement insurance. Furthermore, businesses should tell their employees before the election in 2014 what is going to happened to them because ObamaCare. We can still kill ObamaCare and impeach the Tyrant in the White House with enough votes in the Senate.

  • TexasX

    I have been a Democrat all my life. I ran three times as a Democrat for elected office. I was elected as a Democrat and served four years in one official position. I am ashamed of Barack Obama at this point. He originally seemed to me to be a breath of fresh air. Now he seems to me to be among the worst of Presidents.

  • Osama Yo

    The dirtiest administration in the history of the country and the main stream media has covered it up. These people are pure evil and their sole intent is to bring this country to it’s knees and CBS,NBC,ABC are paving the way.

  • DJB

    America is fucked – You are happy to waste trillians on weapons of mass destruction and happy to let your people starve and die with no medical treatment. Disgusting place run by corporations and people who pretend to be christians… The US is responsable for more death than the Taliban could ever hope for..

    • ConradCA

      No one in America died because they were denied medical care or starved because society denied them food. Your just repeating the propaganda of our enemies.

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      what flavor kool aid did you drink?
      yeah, you hate this place and call it disgusting, but you still live here…
      your are a hypocrite.

    • Jessica Horton

      My husband spent 20 years in the Marine Corps defending and protecting your right to say that! ‘Your Welcome” you ungreatful fuck!

  • frank

    Impeach this black ass son of a bitch!

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      frank,
      leave race out of it. his skin color has no effect on arrogance or stupidity.
      stick with the issue, it gives your argument much more credence.

  • frank

    Impeach this lying sack

  • frank

    This all stems from slavery. Blacks have teamed up with poor whites in the attempt to take from the rich and just anyone who has more because of what white people did to them way before we were all born. This is reverse racism folks!

    • Mark Shaddows

      Its the super wealthy elites, the 1%, the Billionaires and Trillionaires and their Liberal Cadre, using the growing underclasses and immigrants, to destroy the middle class.

      • jackooo41

        Take from the rich and give to the welfare recipients. They deserve it. Never mine that the rich supply the jobs!

      • ConradCA

        There is no reason for the wealthy to impoverish people. It is the communists AKA progressive fascists AKA Democrats who want to destroy the middle class and the wealthy.

  • Dubiaku

    You can say and think that just about anything concerning this plan is “obvious”, but the fact is that it is tremendously complex as any overhaul of a huge and embedded, broken system would be. Many people have made statements according to their best understanding of the plan at the time they spoke only to discover later that some or all of what they said was incomplete, and in some cases, completely wrong. None of that shows ill intent, a desire to mislead, or “lying” in the normal use of that word. If people have real objections to make, make them. Or wait until we all know what we are talking about and then make changes. But malicious accusations and mudslinging does not help at all. To simply call people “liars” is to deliberately ignore the facts and their intentions. If you are not going to help, at least get out of the way.

    • Jessica Horton

      Facts not feelings!! In 2010, Senator Enzi introduced a plan to the Senate that would make sure if you liked your plan you could keep it. All Dems struck it down, and then went out and said to their constituents if you like your plan you could keep it! They have known since 2010 that this was going to happen! That is called LYING!! And are you saying that you have read all 20,000 + pages of this law and regs? It seems unlikely, but if you did maybe you should go to Washington DC and work for the Dems because obviously your reading services are desperately needed!!

    • ConradCA

      Obama knew in 2010 that millions of people would lose their health insurance. He could have easily prevented this by changing ObamaCare so people could keep their insurance if they wanted. As he stated that ObamaCare was better in every respect I am positive that people would have been happy to signup for cheaper and better insurance. So why did ObamaCare force insurance companies to drop people plans? Could this be that Obama was lying and no one would have wanted to signup for his inferior insurance?

  • crazy thinker

    My dear fellow Americans: It’s about control(power) and worry of overpopulation. Read about John B. Calhoun and his rat and mice studies. Narcissistic people like BHO and his mentors in the NWO appear to want to be the “Beautiful Ones” at the end of the study. Maybe they think they will survive the “culling” planned for the U.S. , as an example for the rest of the planet to witness. Just pretend to do this “for the good of the people”. The NWO of today came from the profiteers of Europe. Ironically, the same group that bought and brought slaves from N. Africa from Arab(Muslim) slave traders, taking them to the Americas from approximately 1600-1860. America never owned a slave ship, but we are the only country to go to war over slavery. These NWO types seem to have a blood-thirst, dragging the U.S. into two world wars because of their blotched attempts of world power. By default, the U.S. became a powerful Christian nation. How can that be? Remedy? Infiltrate a political class. Let us blame Capitalism and Christianity, for an example, and then proceed to dismantle both. Infiltrate the education system. Let us reeducate the youth, early on, and blame the other guy for all the problems. Sound familiar? Melting Pot of the world? Let us pit people and races against each other and then step in to seperate them “for the good of the people”. And now we hear about “angry white men clinging to their guns and their religion”. Just like my great grandfather, who left his arm on the battlefield of Gettysburg, fighting against slavery? And now we have to tolerate a tiny percentage of radical Muslims that can’t be called terrorists? Even if they choose it as their vocation? How obtuse, Mr. President! Looks to me like you were tricked. Will that be your epitaph?

  • jackooo41

    I said it years ago and will say it again. Obama is the most intelligent dictator we have EVER had. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is not making mistakes. He understands the results.
    The idea is to corrupt and bankrupt the U.S. because we are not a Muslim nation.
    Keep ignoring what I say and the food stamps will multiply. The illegals will get amnesty. The healthcare system will go bankrupt. Your guns will vanish. And the national religions will disappear and we will all be reading the Koran…..

    • shorty5704

      LOL

  • blondejustice1

    This is how you stop the Obamacare train wreck. Tell everyone, including those completely healthy, non-risktaking young people (LOL) who voted for this foreigner without vetting him fully, to NOT sign up. Nobody should sign up. We know people who have existing medical conditions will, but nobody else sign up. The IRS won’t be able to fine people fast enough but hey, the first year fine is $95.00. Much cheaper than health insurance premiums. Are hospitals allowed to refuse anybody service, including illegals? It’s illegal to do so. Insurance companies then will complain and so will the hospitals to the politicians who created this debacle and maybe we’ll see the kind of change that those of us WHO WERE SMART ENOUGH TO CHECK HIS PAST OUT, we really need. The voters who voted for him should have to pay penalties to those of us who didn’t vote for him. All the blacks who voted and supported his candidacy should have to pay for it because they voted for him only because of his skin color and not his character which is really pretty transparent now, to even those racists who supported him.

    • ConradCA

      The fine includes 1% of your gross, but the fine can only be levied against your tax refund. Increase your deductions so you don’t have a refund and you should be good.

  • jcb

    IMPEACH
    THE
    STILL LYING
    DOC
    SACKER!
    .

  • mauloa

    If 93 million lose their insurance perhaps the answer is to go back to square one and let people choose their own insurance. Obviously Obamacare is on “life support” and if the plug is pulled – will die quickly. The elected officials need to quit worrying about whether they will be re-elected and put their energy to serving the American people – something they have forgotten was their purpose. Both parties come together and get this done – or else you will all be gone, just like Obamacare.

    • shorty5704

      Single payer. Medicare for all.

      • ConradCA

        That is what Obama and the progressive fascists really want. They want to control everyone’s healthcare and build a soviet style healthcare system. This way they can save money by killing off the young and old as Obama’s medical adviser suggested in his book. England has this type of medical system and they kill off the elderly and anyone else who is too expensive to treat.

  • patriot6280

    This is only a bombshell for the Kool-Aid drinkers and MSM. Conservatives said this from the beginning.

  • http://yes.no/ of course

    We understand the Filthy Redistributor`s evil plan. The key Q is when are we going to do something about it ?

  • Crank

    Many large companies opined that it would cost them less to drop employees’ coverage and pay the penalty than to “upgrade” coverage to comply with the ACA. That was before the ACA was passed.
    Which do you think those companies’ executives will actually do? Whichever has the lesser effect on their bottom line, or course. Drop coverage, pay the fine, and collect their bonuses based upon the millions of dollars they are saving the company.

    • ConradCA

      Don’t blame the companies because their employees will lose their insurance policies no matter how the companies respond to ObamaCare. The Lying Tyrant chose to have ObamaCare function that way so he could extract money from those who earn it and give it to those who didn’t.

  • ConradCA

    If you want to see the real Obama you should read Thomas Sowell’s opinion piece “Phony in Chief” at townhall.com. He provides proof that Obama uses lies as a political tool to achieve political goals.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/10/09/phony_in_chief/page/full

    Mr. Sowell tells about how in 2007 while running for President Senator Obama gave a speech to a largely black audience in New Orleans after Katrina. He complained to them that they weren’t getting the waiver to the Stafford Act that was given to NY after 9/11 and FL after hurricane Andrew. He said that it was because the federal government didn’t care about blacks.

    This was a lie and Senator Obama knew it. He knew it because he had voted against this waiver two weeks earlier and because it had been signed into law. He lied in order to make his audience angry with the government and to trick them into supporting him.

    This is the worst kind of lie and the same technique that the worst tyrants use to win political power. Tyrants that murdered millions of their “enemies” and destroyed their countries. How long will it take for Tyrant Obama to take the next step and open up concentration camps for his enemies?

  • Looey

    Obama is going to need more money for this disaster. The Republicans control the House and the purse strings. NO MORE MONEY and NO NEW TAXES. I just saw my surgeon this morning, and he had a few things to say about Obamacare. That government know-nothings will have input into the procedures they will be doing for the patients. Folks, the worst is yet to come, so we need to do everything we can to stop it or put up roadblocks all the way.

  • P

    My employer is dropping our insurance the first of next year because she says we can get better coverage with the same Blue Cross we have now PLUS due to our income bracket – we can now qualify for subsidies to help pay for the premiun! WOW that sounds amazing! ;/ I will be shocked if it is true and I pray whoever is elected as our next president will throw out this ACA for good!

    • ConradCA

      The next president should issue a decree preventing the government from spending 1 cent on anything to do with ObamaCare. All the people hired to work on it should be laid of.

  • rulierose

    to those 2 million+ ‘conservatives’ who voted for McCain/Palin in 2008 but couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Romney/Ryan in 2012: a big fat THANKS FOR NOTHING.

    because you valued some perfect model of conservative that you didn’t see in Mitt Romney, you just stayed home. and your self-righteousness enabled four more years of Obama.

    I blame you far more than I blame the low-infos who actually voted for Obama. they don’t know any better: you do.

  • AlwaysRight

    Hilary said.. “if you like your plan you can keep it”… Bye Bye Hildabeast!

  • shorty5704

    President Obama’s mere existence is obviously driving some people totally cra-cra.

    • Jackie Janes Loveless

      bob here…
      typical,
      blame it all on racism. I suppose if I am on a cruise liner, and I see the captain driving the boat into the rocks and warn him about it, then complain because he did not heed my warning, and the captain just happens to be black, then I am a racist. well I didn’t like socialized medicine when Hillary was pushing it, and she is lily white. if you want to change peoples’ minds, try a new trick… yours is wearing thin.

      • shorty5704

        Stop seeing ghosts and being irrational. I never called anyone racist. That’s not how I roll. And btw, hit dogs usually holla first. I’m just saying.
        And I repeat, President Obama’s mere existence is driving some people bat-sh-t crazy.

        • allah_speaking

          If you hate having a liar as the President, it’s completely understandable.

        • ConradCA

          Your a liar because you did call people bigots.

  • blondejustice1

    Yes, good idea. I’m going to make sure we have no refund. Already took care of that. We have insurance through my husband’s retirement program with the state we live in as he was a state worker for about 16 years. However, we pay a lot for lousy HMO services where the co-pays are getting higher. It’s United Healthcare. Heard on the news that Obama is now asking insurance companies not to drop their customers. Too late now, because they have existing conditions. And this is only good for a year. Hmmmm, would that take us past the 2014 elections by chance??? He’s such a lying sack of crap!!

  • Phhfhvinit

    Great, a website that offers the lowest common denominator of society to give each other an online reach around. Bravo!

  • Jackie Janes Loveless

    bob here.
    this is a bombshell? I thought a bombshell was something totally unexpected and shocking. Anyone with any sense at all saw this as a fiasco when HILLARY brought it up during the Clinton administration.
    well, Mr. Carducci, just what flavor of Kool-Aid did you swallow?

  • Jackie Janes Loveless

    if Obama meant it when he said it is all on him, he should resign.
    if his heart was pure and he just got bad advice from his advisors, he should fire their butts on the spot, and insist on legislators immediately cancel the law through the constitutional process.
    neither of these things are going to happen, because he values his legacy more than he values the well being of millions of people he just screwed over.
    this leads me to only 1 logical conclusion…. he hates the usa as much as his pastor, and he is hell bent on destroying the greatest nation the world has ever known.
    regards,
    bob.

  • Jackie Janes Loveless

    does anyone remember why the republicans were willing to force a govt. shutdown?
    they did their best to keep this fiasco from happening, and got killed by the lib press for it. if the dems have the balls to force this piece of *** on u

  • john shuey

    I have no idea if Obamacare will ultimately pan out. But when I see sites like this, surrounded by cheesy advertisers (investing via the Bible, skinny pills, etc) and then read cheesy copy calling an official “Queen”, I know it is aimed at angry simpleminded fools.

    At the end of the day, we cannot continue to support a system that charges families $15K/yr for premiums w/ no end in sight for big annual hikes. Employers are balking at subsidizing them.

  • shorty5704

    Wow. What a bunch on this thread. So much fear. So much anger. So much hatred. So much ignorance. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    • allah_speaking

      So ignorance is alive and well. Congratulations.

    • Churyl Minne

      Keep burying your head in the sand and chant your mantra, “Obama will save us, Obama will save us…” Maybe it just might work.

    • ConradCA

      Fear and anger at the Obomination in the White House and the Senate. The progressive fascists are destroying our country with numerous violations of the constitution and lies. Its time to put a stop to it. In 1776 our ancestors sacrificed everything for freedom from Tyranny. Now it is our turn to do the same against Tyrant Obama and his band of progressive fascists.

  • Bill

    I am a small business employer and have already seen the bow wave of greatly increased costs. I have had to pass that cost onto my employees, 100%, meaning they have seen increases in their portion of the plan by as much as 70%. I expect these costs to continue, but there is an Obamacare limit stating the employer must cover a certain amount of the employee’s premium. Therefore, my next move is to stop covering spouses and children which is not required to be covered by an employer. Some of my employees who have family coverage will see their portion go from today’s amount of about $350 to as much as $1,000 a month. I know one of my employees will not be able to pay that much and still meet his house payment. But I have no choice, I don’t have the money.

  • Chris

    You all need to realize that even if this ACA gets repealed, there is no way that insurace companies are going back to cheaper rates. They are happy to line their pockets. Insurance rates will never be the same.

    • ConradCA

      I don’t really care. I will happily pay more if it puts a halt the the progressive fascist’s destruction of our country.

  • Amplius Piratae Asino

    Obama = Big Greedy HealthCare Banker
    Nancy + Harry = Greedy Democrat Congressional Health Care Mortgage Brokers
    We The People = Effed Up the A with a generational A.R.M. Health Plan

    Either Americans forgot to read the fine print before they signed the contract; or Obama fundamentally changed and amended it, after the fact…

  • Waiting4

    What is subStandard is the redistribution policies of the LEFT. In their rush to show the world that they can do “Communism” better than the Russians did in their wasted 70+ years as the Soviet Union, ( or our ‘commies are better than yours’) the USA’s leftist are prepared and trying to destroy the hundreds of years of progress made as a relatively open and free society. Surely the gulogs are not far behind because there is only one way to insure totalitarianism.

  • Churyl Minne

    For 85% or more the system was not perfect but working. Now with Obamacare we can look forward to nothing working for 85% and a select few will be able to pay for it themselves. Thank you, Democrats! A $6-10K deductible is quite substandard when I am currently paying out of pocket $2500 for a family of three. I hope that all the sh*t hits the fan before the next election so that the sheeple in this country really get to see what they voted for.

    • ConradCA

      Not only that but they don’t even cover 100% of hospitalization! The Bronze plan is only 60% which makes it worthless. You might as well not have any insurance. The only real point of having insurance is to provide coverage for catastrophic medical conditions.

  • Marrkedman

    Modern liberal democrats must be tarred and feathered forever. They are nothing more than anti-American, anti-Constitutional bunch of malcontents who desire to control. They mist never be forgiven.

  • RickNSanDiego

    A long time ago there was a Secretary of State that was helping calm the world of most of there fears. He saw the government in shambles and decided to become a speaker at different forums across this nation, and was so fed up with government controls he did not want to run for office. Coincidentally he is black just like Obama is and the only difference is three things that Obama does not have:
    1) A brain and the ability to negotiate.
    2) He knows about wars and when to stay out of them (he is a retired General).

    3) He knows about the problems in the United States and believes in small governments..AND MOST OF ALL HE NEVER LIES, HE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS! Give up yet?…His name folks is Collen Powell and he not only walks the talks, he keeps his promises and HE HAS MY VOTE but he is fed up with American Politics.

    • ConradCA

      Collin Powell is a racist like everyone who voted for our incompetent unqualified Tyrant Obama.

  • bdcstrong1

    How about this one for all you progressive liberals who just love to spend OTHER people’s money: In fiscal 2012, the deficit was $1.089193 trillion; in fiscal 2011, it was $1.296791 trillion; in fiscal 2010, it was $1.294204 trillion. Even when adjusted for inflation, the $680.276 billion fiscal 2013 deficit is only exceeded by one pre-Obama deficit–the one the U.S. government ran in 1943… By the way the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate from 2007-2009, no wonder Bush couldn’t CUT anything…

  • Sean Bishop

    What is interesting is the sheer number of Americans who have absolutely no ability to read between the lines. What has happened is the insurance companies, when forced to actually provide adequate insurance, have had to dramatically raise their rates. Instead of people seeing that reality and finally getting hip to the fact that their past insurance was nothing more than a worthless false sense of security; people instead get all snotty about Obamacare for showing this reality. This is what REAL insurance costs people. This is what insurance that won’t result in most people who get seriously ill or injured going bankrupt and then ending up broke, poor, and on Medicaid after their worthless “insurance” left them grossly under-insured costs. Yes Obamacare is a garbage piece of legislation as well. Unfortunately it was the best the incompetent democrats could do with zero support for ANY type of real health insurance reform whatsoever from the republicans. So we had a choice of no reform whatsoever while insurance companies continued to happily rip off consumers who of course were “happy” with their plans as they had not yet used them for anything serious (do a poll of how many people who have had a major injury or illness are happy with their insurance and then get back to me). I always love to see you foot-stomping “healthcare is fine the way it is” types after you get the bill for a couple hundred thousand dollars despite your wonderful “insurance” that you were so “happy” with before you knew any better.

    In theory I would hope the next time the democrats have the ability to govern, and seeing the futility of this horrible piece of legislation, will repeal it and replace it with a single payer system. Then free market economics can work freely for all those who want it (they will pay cash to cash accepting doctors), and the rest of us will have one insurer who can say no when healthcare provider mafia wants their annual 30% raise. Or at a minimum haul in the crooked lawyers who wrote up the old “insurance” plans and indict them on felony fraud charges, convict them, imprison them, and take away their ill-gotten gains (“bumping” people off their coverage when they get injured or sick which is the entire reason people carry it to begin with – if you know a better example of fraud please let me know). The democrats missed their chance to actually govern when they had the power to do it. Of course the reality is even if they did institute a single payer system the democrats would no doubt have allowed public employee unions to run it and it would be worse then anyone could ever imagine just like our horrible school system. So basically no reform and we keep the garbage policies that so many Americans (who are ignorant fools) are “happy” with until they file bankruptcy – or we have a grossly incompetent bunch of democrats design a garbage fix of some sort as they can’t touch anything without their corrupt union masters milking it dry. Wonderful state of affairs in this country isn’t it? If I could leave I would – this is a sinking ship and only so because the drunken people keep playing child games.

    • Ratt Stone

      So you are telling me the Health Insurance I have had for over 20 years is crap and ‘substandard’ ? I have had 3 surgeries in the last 10 years, my rate went from $190 a month in 1997 to $210 a month in 2013. There ain’t nothing wrong with our Health Insurance in this Country. Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the Democrats need to force 30 million of us into ObamaCare where we will be forced to pay higher premiums, higher deductibles and higher co-pays, because someone is gona have to pay for the policies for the sick, the pre-existing conditions, the abortions, the maternity care, the Welfare Crowd, the Unions, the Politicians and the dayyam illegals. It was designed this way, but we never got to see the Bill because Queen Nancy used legislative trickery to get it passed before anyone could read it. And then Obama , the Democrats and the Media lied to the Americans People on how bad this bill was. You f’n Democrats are going down come 2014.

    • Jeff

      My substandard health insurance plan paid for 90% of my foot surgery and my rehab, and it was affordable. I really liked my old policy.

    • ConradCA

      The progressive fascists think they know whats best for the little people. They chose to implement ObamaDeathCare so it could kill off health insurance and private healthcare. After the collapse they caused they think they will be able to ram a soviet style healthcare down our throats.

    • ConradCA

      If ObamaCare is so much better than the insurance we have why do the progressive fascists have to force us into ObamaCare? If what your saying is true than everyone would be happy to signup. The fact is that it is a lie. Everything that Obama and the progressive fascists said about ObamaCare is a lie and the only way they can get people to signup is to force them.

  • sweeper111

    I think I’ll invest in some insurance companies.

  • Yvonne R. Mcginnis

    Obama can’t do this alone folks. That is just one part of the equation that bloggers are forgetting. It is up to your congressional leader to move on the passing of those pieces of legislation that you so desire. The President merely signs off on that piece of legislation, but before the President can sign off Congress must do their job. Political gridlock and stagnation have existed in Washington, DC for a number of years because the left and the right disagree on the best approach to move this nation forward. There are significantly fundamental differences. If you want something done your best avenue is your representative or senator. Don’t sit around and wait till it arrives at the President’s desk.

    Additionally, this President has been very accommodating to the American people. He is genuinely concerned about the cancellation oh health insurance policies, and is addressing that issue as we speak. He admitted when he first ran for office that he was not a perfect man but would do all he could, and would work very hard for the American people. Notwithstanding the fact, none of us are perfect; we all make mistakes. However, you must voice your opinion, and trust that the President will not only listen, but respond as he has done with the cancellation of health insurance policies. This President is not your enemy, he is your friend because he is attempting in every possible way to give America health care reform; something we haven’t been able to accomplish in the past. This is not about Obama folks. This is about us, we the people. It’s about addressing our needs. It’s about having a
    second chance at life. It’s about expanding Medicaid in states for those who need it. It’s about providing tax subsidies to help individuals in the federal marketplace, and it’s about giving folks a variety of options whether it’s through the state exchanges or the individual marketplace. This folks is a call to action to tell our congressional leaders that we need a comprehensive health insurance plan that meet the needs of the uninsured, individuals, and families. ObamaCare is a good start – FIX IT!

    • Matt

      That cool aid must taste real good. Who paid you to write that? Soros?

    • ConradCA

      Tyrant Obama lied to us in order to get this disaster planned. He deserves to be impeached and imprisoned. He is our enemy.

    • D. Nic

      Are you on Crack or meth Yvonne? This worthless sorry huge POS muslim-islam terrorist lover has done NOTHING for Americans… This POS should be removed from office and sent to a third world country to live on the streets and beg for money… Him and his wife are so disgusting!!!!! Terrorist Obama is our enemy.. “If you want something done your best avenue is your representative or senator” Again you must have been under the influence…. Have you not seen how regardless of what congress has wanted this POS Dictator just passes an executive order to get what he wants!! You seriously need to wake up from where ever you are at……

    • imagonner

      nancy is that you ? I thought you had a botox appointment today.

  • danapointdaddy

    I want everyone who voted for this fired. I want obama and sebelius fired.

  • Patriotson2

    Ah, but according to Pelosi, “we have to pass it before we know what is in it” and we can trust the now Democratic Socialist Party to be trusted. They don’t lie and the president isn’t black. It is all a planned operation to destroy the best health care system in the world and to generate the first ever Marxist socialist health care where we will have to pay higher costs; receive less care and have no doctors or hospitals within a hundred miles to receive us should be become victims of this failure. To put it another way, we have the ability to approve our own health plans by voting these “snake oil” salesmen out of office in 2014. We must never never forget this deception and deliberate attempt to impose a socialist system upon the freemen of America.

  • James D;. Burke

    Obamacare puts a permanent burr under the collar of America! Whereas some Communist Dictatorships in Easter Europe kept their citizens hungry continually; and some kept their citizens fatigued, always tired and always hungry, Pres. Obama attempts to use the prickly burr of medical care. What our president is doing is crime

  • James D;. Burke

    Furthermore, I am happy the Obama snare website isn’t working. If it isn’t working people won’t be snared on the Obama care hook. The Obama Admin. is the most meddlesome Administration in American history and should be stopped in it’s tracks. The sooner, the better!

  • BK Martin

    I just watched The Obama’s recitation of the Gettysburg Address. It seems that laws are not the only thing He will edit to His liking. The One left out Under God from Lincoln’s speech…

  • haunani

    From the Beginning, they have lied, twisted, gloated, bloated, and decided for us. It’s time to decide for them to retire or be voted out. This thing can be altered, repealed, or changed by one thing, votes. Votes for people that will go and make this thing go away.
    Everyone in America should be outraged, not by the health plan, but by THE LIE. Presidents have lost office for lying, for doing things under the radar, and this guy is no different.
    Now, the lying is complicite, serial and done by the entire Democrat party, of which I bet there are those that at night in their solitude, wish they had never heard of Obama, frankly, the nation is seemingly headed in that direction too.

  • otheroptions

    I did lose my employer based plan this year. Our state’s plans were changed and approved prior to Obama legislating from the White House and saying they wouldn’t enforce employer mandate for a year. The “comparable” plan does not add any new coverage, BUT is $200/month more, and takes my deductible from 3k to 10k per year. (AKA preventative health and catastrophic care, but heaven help you if your kids break an arm, or you get sick on a weekend.

  • Raymond Covit

    Dem or repub, we all are being ripped off by the insurance companies, not obama.
    if you have “coverage” and it does not get you fixed if you are broken, its useless and the purveyors are thieves.
    Expand the VA healthcare system to include all of us. if our government “subsidises” insurance premiums, they are giving money to foreign corporations, how could that save us any money on health care?
    Obamas public option, that was removed by the senators was our only hope. expand the VA. its US all the way….

  • Krn

    The Liar President should be impeached!

  • tradertom2

    93 million going to lose their insurance? …….. and only Joseph R. Carducci knows about it? How about that – WOW!!

    93 million is about half of all people who have insurance.

    • ConradCA

      Obama knew about it years ago. That’s why he illegally delayed ObamaCare for large employers. Not only that but a lot of companies will drop coverage for their employees families because the alternative is to close up shop.

    • Buttercup

      Actually, this was in the Federal Register in 2010. The Federal Register is where government -federal government- agencies place information on new regulations implementing statutes.

  • Bob Vos

    2014 elections will see a large elephant in the room (pun intended).

  • Spgfld Tom

    A month ago my employer notified employees that our current healthcare plan (“OK” coverage at a very reasonable price) does not meet ObamaCare “minimums” and thus we will not longer be covered effective January 1st.

  • TPMelbourne

    The Senate’s move today with regard to filibuster opens the door for Obama to push through anything he wants via executive order.
    The DC circuit appointee will have this directive as the cost of her approval as this is the court that will initially rule for or against the President’s power to execute his wishes.

  • TPMelbourne

    Lies don’t matter and the end (single payer gov insurance) justifies the means is the Dem. mantra.
    Unfortunately Harry Reid and the Senate virtually guaranteed the worst is yet to come with their vote on Senate rules change today.

  • Miss Day Spooner

    This piece is among the most moronic ever to disgrace the WSJ’s pages.
    Here: read something that – just maybe – your preposterously addled brains can comprehend.

    http://wonkette.com/532898/obamas-you-can-keep-your-plan-failed-to-anticipate-how-much-americans-love-cheap-crappy-plans-that-cover-nothing

    • Miss Day Spooner

      Oh, that’s RIGHT…this is NOT the WSJ. This is a worthless online tea-rag, aptly named “DOWNTREND.” My bad. Forget what I said and go right on back to eating your paint chips.

      • imagonner

        so why are you here Miss Day Spooner ? go have another drink of the stupid-aide your master is dishing out

    • crystlfire62

      ONLY morons I see on a daily basis are the liberals who put this Obamanation in office TWICE!!

  • MSG Leo

    I don’t see how this law is supposed to get all Americans insurance coverage if more people are losing their coverage than are signing up. What is the affordable part of the ACA when virtually no one has gotten insurance through the exchange and actually saved money?

  • headusher

    “As the employer mandate takes effect later, we will eventually see something like 93 million Americans losing their healthcare plans.”
    Just sit back and watch the Dems crash and burn!!! The wrath of the American People will reign down on them with such a disdain there won’t be enough places for them to hide. I wonder how many will bail prior to the election next year so they won’t be embarrassed?? Some of those townhall meetings should be very interesting.

    • garytheobserver

      The dems timed this thing so that it hits them AFTER the November elections. They will lie, lie, lie, and lie again too you until the election is over and they retain their power again……. and until they give voting rights to 10 million illegals… then they won’t care what you think. The constitutionalists will be purged and the illegals made legal will keep the socialists in power until every last dollar of wealth is drained away and the constitution will be obliterated.

  • Bill Jones

    it already is happening the big ones are the cap based plans those are going away because of this jackass and his socialist goons granted they were flawed but at least it was something.

  • michelle

    This won’t be the worst of it – jobs are going to be lost as a result of this, which means more people on food stamps, Medicaid/Medicare, etc. Basically, the Demonrats have literally screwed this country big time, and only a miracle of God will get this country back on track. The Relieorats are no better – they’d rather exempt their corporate masters from everything. Like I said, only a miracle of God will get this country back on track, but its time for ‘we, the people’ – the legal taxpayers who pay our ‘great’ congresspeople/senators their salaries – to start using some wisdom and look at the long-term consequences – not the immediate short term. Yes, it will hurt – myself as well because I rely on food stamps right now, am looking for work and haven’t found any employment yet – particularly those of us who are poor and are struggling to survive day-to-day. But it may be necessary to get this country back on the right track again

    • crystlfire62

      Maybe you should stop believing that the republicans are the rich ones when it has been proven that there are far more millionaire and billionaire democrats than republicans. They just added a new multi multi millionaire called Obama! When these brain washed idiot liberals stop listening to the liars media, maybe we can have our country back.

  • Mark

    Saddam and his Baath regime did use chemical weapons in 1988 against the Kurds in northern Iraq. So why do people doubt that he could have been hiding weapons of mass destruction?

  • crystlfire62

    I still see cars proudly showing their backing of Obama with bumper stickers on their cars. If I were them, I would take those off as soon as possible. The next three years will be a nightmare for this country thanks to the stupidity of those who put Obama in office for a SECOND time. I can understand the first time but he did a horrible job and should never have been put in for a second term. NOW everyone will suffer for the decisions of the stupid, brain washed liberals!

    • imagonner

      everytime is see one of those bumper stickers on a car in a parking lot I spit on it. I would like to poop on it but that would be to much work LOL

  • Karen Koch

    ” Everyone with even half a brain understands that he is now a liar…and a liar in the worst way. ” ‘Now’ a liar, you’ve got to be kidding, he’s always been a liar. It’s just that now most people know it.

    • ElmiraFudd

      Makes sense as he allegedly didn’t know about Fast and Furious, NSA
      spying, IRS spying on conservatives, Benghazi, Rev Wright’s racist
      sermons for over 22 years, how to say corpsemen, how many states in the
      US, Austrian’s speak German, you can keep your plan, a Syrian Red Line,
      how to run an economy, that you DID build that business, capitalism
      works every time it is unleashed……

  • Oback Arama

    On January 1. 2014, fewer people will have health insurance than had health insurance on October 1. 2013, the day the ObamaExchanges opened. Now that’s what is known as liberal, progressive, Democrat management efficiency.

  • TrainerCary

    the first thing we need to make sure of is that all of these lawmakers get the same insurance plans and options that the rest of us do.

  • yankee_gardener

    In our daily life, we encounter people who are angry, deceitful, intent only on satisfying their own needs. There is so much anger, distrust, greed, and pettiness that we are losing our capacity to work well together. If we as a country and government and citizens do not try to hear what is being said, nothing will change come 2014, 2016, 2018. We will continue the sand box antics and kindergarten attitude. The Dems and Repubs are equally guilty of BS.

  • Barbara Tyler

    nobama’s care was fully intended to remove everyones health care, destroy the insurance companies and make King obama in sole control of all of our lives. We tried to warn you it was a Ponzi scheme but you were so in love with the goodies you thought you were going to get that you refused to believe the TRUTH. Unfortunately your stupidity is going to hurt everyone but the King and his buddies Sebeliius will get hers in the end too but that will unfortunately not help the people who tried to stop him. This was not an error in judgment on his part, or his not knowing the end result, no one under the age of six could be this ignorant or stupid – pick you own adverb. So thanks for voting for a death warrant for billions of people.

  • Enzo

    That’s what you get when you elect osama bin laden as president.

  • D. Nic

    well said

  • worldgonemad

    Heck yeah I am scared! I currently have a very good employer-provided plan that has helped pay for my cancer treatments. We pay part of that, but it is affordable and I’ve had access to the best doctors and facilities without going bankrupt. VERY scared to lose that!!!

    • garytheobserver

      Don’t worry, obaMao’s bureaucrats will prescribe for you a pain pill to ease your suffering and send you home. I am sad for you and for our country. God save our republic… it is for sure the politicians and obaMao voters are intent on destroying it and abolish the Constitution.

  • suibneg

    the fraud called obamacare requires a class
    action brought against individuals of the shadow socialist government for
    psychological and emotional stress brought on through the deliberate lies made
    to the elderly in particular. Their financial well being, their physical well
    being and their emotional well being have all been thrown into question through
    the redistribution of wealth disguised as health care. Frozen in fear and
    alone, the elderly are not able to defend what little they have left to fall back
    on and it is being taken from them with the consent of the likes of AARP and
    other so called spokesmen for the elderly. Wait till you see the suicide rates
    go up in two or three years when the theft dawn on them. this makes Bernie
    Madoff look like a kitten.

  • Bruno James

    I was a Republican my whole life and re-registered as an independent when it became clear that George II would be reelected. I knew that because no one would vote for Kerry. Actually after the Rebublicans screwed things up with the full knowledge and assistance of the Dems I realized that the best administration in my life was Clintons divided government. If 40% are registered as Democrats and 30% are registered as Republicans then 30% realize that neither party speaks for them. This country wasn’t broken until Obamacare. Vote for divided government. Make them compromise to do anything.

  • ATrober

    If you think this is messed up, wait ’til the Feds have their hands in healthcare itself.

  • How

    How about the millions of workers that have seen there insurance premium prices go up 150% and more another lie. No one is talking about the cost of medications for the elderly one prescription for a cancer patient sodium $11,000.00 it looks like the democrats want them to die.

  • imagonner

    By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
    - Adolf Hitler -

    • garytheobserver

      Hitler was a National Socialist of the Fascist side of that philosophy. When you accept socialism then socialists can and do lie to you and the fools believe it. I am certain that along with alinsky, obaMao has studied Mein Kampf and other socialist writings for inspiration.

  • Denice Adams

    A one size fits all insurance plan is being forced on Americans; Americans are unique individuals and one size fits all does NOT fit Americans.

    • jcb

      but scumbags are one size fits all …

  • IzzyKiddnya

    Why doesn’t Congress pass a law, forbidding any employer from discontinuing current employee coverage?

    You guys all scream about how bad it is that employers no longer will pay for employees’ health insurance —

    Then DO something about it!

  • dominke

    Before we can retake our country we need the people to get heads out of butt hole. We would not be in this problem if we the people had cared and understood plain English. In primary before Obama stole the office of president he told all of us his plans and no one cared. We the people are to blame because we did not care about the country and freedom we used to enjoy.

    • jcb

      BUT, he lied about most of the plans!

      • garytheobserver

        For the intelligent we saw everything he was and knew every lie before he told it. The idiot republicans put a liberal rino up against him (McCain) so that even the republican base was fooled. Until Americans learn to use their heads and listen to facts and reality instead of hope-y, feely, change-y nonsense then the republic will continue to fail.
        I knew we were doomed in the first national debate between obaMao and McCain. In the ENTIRE debate, neither candidate defended the Constitution… as pathetic as that sounds, neither candidate even used the word “Constitution” EVEN ONE TIME… NOT ONE TIME… I could not believe it so I ran a scan on the text of the entire debate. The constitution, the greatest document created directly by man and the guarantor or our liberty was totally ignored. I knew we were doomed to failure. I HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE IT when I’m right. I also am right that our economy will soon crash violently. I hate with a passion that I am right. I also predict a revolution… on this point I am not sure but I pray that it does not happen. Still can’t see how to avoid it with the stupidity of 51% of our populace.

        • jcb

          Gary you are SO CORRECT on ALL of your points

  • MIKE6080

    Treason is all I can call it , another piece of their plan to destroy the country

  • chris

    this is just a natural movement of costs from the large corporations to the taxpayers…first was retirement plans, now health care..next vacations and sickdays ..this will drive corporate profits thru 2016

  • Bobo

    the progressives don’t care one way or another if you get screwed, as long as they force their agenda down your throath. the democratic party is a danger and menace to society.

  • joe

    people that ATTACK TYPO’S ARE ASSH&LES… and Laffing Cow is just most likely a cow,,,not the brightest animal in the barn….HAPPY NEW YEAR …

  • MWhite

    “If you like your job…you can keep your jo….uh…sorry.”

    • garytheobserver

      … and your home, your small business, your middle class lifestyle, your good schools, and hope for the future… so says obaMao.

  • babbott

    “. . .if you are currently covered under a plan provided by your employer,
    watch out! Chances are quite good that it will not meet these new
    ObamaCare ‘standards.’

    Of course the employer-sponsored plans will be declared “sub-standard” because they don’t include Obama’s signature free contraceptives, and maternity benefits for 60-year-old men that he insists they need.

  • bry

    I thought the whole concern was for people to be covered. Now it turns out they are ruining people’s coverage everywhere. And Americans put up with this?? I don’t fault Obama, he didn’t craft this plan or the stimulus. He can barely read a speech. So who is behind all this very pre-planned chaotic attack on responsible Americans??
    I don’t trust either party. Too many politicians do whatever Bigbusiness wants for too long.

  • Duude

    The broken website has served a purpose. Its taken the focus off all those people losing coverage.

  • disqus_59KZkHgegx

    Surprise, surprise, surprise!
    51% — Ye suckers!

  • jcb

    IMPEACH THE DOC SACKER for massive lies and fraud!

  • nick1111

    Saddam Hussein was better than Hussein Obama

  • MamaBear

    People with cancer are losing access to their cancer centers. If you have certain unusual, advanced, or metastasized cancers, you need to be at a cancer center where your doctors have the experience, can work as a coordinated team, and tests and treatments can be scheduled as quickly as needed. Delays can be fatal. Lack of knowledge in your particular cancer or lack of access to the newest treatments can be fatal. It is not just a case of having to pick a new GP to handle your colds, it is life and death.
    Our family’s worst nightmare is my husband’s employer forcing us onto Obamacare and as a result my losing my doctors. Thank God, it did not happen this year.

  • Joe

    Many people do not like their insurance, because insurance sucks and now everyone has to buy it. What a joke. Even if you did like it, it doesn’t matter, because our government, both sides of the aisle are now in the business of telling us what we are supposed to like, what we are supposed to tolerate, and what is supposed to upset us. . So now, we lost our insurance, because we just didn’t realize how much we didn’t’ like it, we all like more security at the expense of liberty, and we are all upset when the government had to shut down and stop spending 1/1000th of it’s budget to close down memorials, and recreation areas. What a bogus deal. Someone in our government needs to start taking real action instead of having more “hearings” and talking about it. If they don’t repeal Obamacare, and get people thrown in jail for the IRS scandal, and Benghazigate then we need to kick every last person out of office until someone can do their job. . OUT WITH EVERYONE.

  • Joe

    Many people do not like their insurance, because insurance sucks and now everyone has to buy it. What a joke. Even if you did like it, it doesn’t matter, because our government, both sides of the aisle are now in the business of telling us what we are supposed to like, what we are supposed to tolerate, and what is supposed to upset us. . So now, we lost our insurance, because we just didn’t realize how much we didn’t’ like it, we all like more security at the expense of liberty, and we are all upset when the government had to shut down and stop spending 1/1000th of it’s budget to close down memorials, and recreation areas. What a bogus deal. Someone in our government needs to start taking real action instead of having more “hearings” and talking about it. If they don’t repeal Obamacare, and get people thrown in jail for the IRS scandal, and Benghazigate then we need to kick every last person out of office until someone can do their job. . OUT WITH EVERYONE.

  • giveandtake

    Maybe “Schumer can throw them a bone to chew on so that those who have lost insurance or will soon lose it can chew on the bone like a pacifier, and they will keep calm and not complain they can’t get signed up. Schumer does this for the unemployed also.

  • Ed Twyst

    The ACA is a poorly thought out, and even more poorly implemented disaster. Two people can expect to pay over $20,000 A YEAR for coverage they use (that’s >$800 per month for premiums and a $12,600 max out of pocket). I make a pretty good living but I can’t just pull another $20,000 out of my a$$ so what are we supposed to do? Just pay the tax penalty until it becomes equal to/more than the cost of the coverage?
    I am IN FAVOR of health care for those who don’t have or can’t get it. But this plan is not healthcare reform, it’s just paying even more for less than what we had before. It was bad enough when the providers and insurers were in collusion, now the Feds are in on the extortion too.

    • garytheobserver

      Ed you are slightly but significantly wrong in one point. You say obaMao care was poorly thought out. No, it was WELL THOUGHT OUT BECAUSE IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO WORK… IT IS DESIGNED TO DESTROY OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. It is bad by design. It is doing what it is supposed to quite well. The REAL purpose of obaMao care is to destroy the private health care system, destroy the middle class, and replace our sovereignty with the power of the federal bureaucracy. It is a disaster but make NO mistake… it is well planned and planned to be the disaster it is. It is succeeding even beyond the Marxists wild expectations.

  • Craig69

    Democrats will bury Republicans. It’s time to have health care like the rest of the civilized world.

    • randyo99

      “Democrats will bury Republicans.” The d’s have already placed the steaming pile of offal on the R’s. It is far more likely that the R’s will save the prog’s from themselves. Although I see absolutely no good reason, other than it’s the right thing to do.

    • garytheobserver

      The dems are burying ALL OF US IN 17.5 TRILLION IN DEBT AND THAT IS ONLY IF NOT ONE MORE DOLLAR OF DEBT IS CREATED AND ZERO INTEREST ON THAT ASTRONOMICAL DEBT. If one stacks 17.5 trillion dollar bills on top of each other and shines a lazer from one end to the other, light traveling at 186,000 miles per second would take more than ONE MINUTE to reach the other end. Oh, and here is the best part… these baby boomers are leaving it ALL to our children to pay back… suckers! What’s the problem… kids can’t vote and when they do get old enough to the dems will just tell them to vote for them because they are “cool”. The stupid young adults will think its cool to vote for cool.

  • Defiant

    Duh. Thanks for the news flash, Downtrend. Unless you’re a raving Liberal, this was pretty obvious…and the raving Liberals won’t believe you anyway…

  • joe

    in Obama’s world everything is SUB STANDARD…if it’s NOT HIS PLAN..WHAT AN ASS…and yes I was a DEM at one time too….

  • sanderdog

    We needed health care reform. We now need health care reform more than ever. If you read the supporters of ACA, ObamaCare, they push the 26 year old rule, the upper limit rule and the pre-existing condition rule. Okay. Keep those three and burn the rest on the grotesque evil law of the White House.

  • TwinkleStar2

    Why don’t we say the obvious? ACA is all about giving free healthcare to women and gays. They are the winners in this lottery. Free breast exams, free contraception, free abortions, etc, etc., etc. As for gays, now they can unleash their sexual energy and screw everything they want with abandon and without condoms since they will now have their treatment for HIV/AIDS paid for. Screw this law – I will never join, I will never pay. Lock me up, I don’t give a damn about ACA, or the corrupt American government.

  • dbdy

    To the rest of the country that have plans that are good and
    covers the requirements of the law expect your costs to SKY ROCKET!!!!!! Especially if you have children expect to pay A LOT more to subsidize the poor and the illegals that need insurance.

    I am at a loss for words. Our own government is attacking each and every American financially until we all break and become poor as are some others already on the streets. Is this what obama calls “INCOME EQUALITY?” When we are all broke? Our government is supposed to look out for our way of life and to protect our borders. The government should not be in the business
    of trying to direct what we should and should not buy in a free market
    economy. Our founding fathers must be turning over in their graves right now.

    Well obamacare less finally came home to roost at my door step. I am on my wife’s program and yes we do make a decent living salary wise and I am not ashamed to admit it. We have no children. The premium that we pay
    per month went up $560!!!! Out of our pay check!!! You can be sure I will be purchasing less goods and services now because there is no income. Obama and the democrats are nothing but JOB KILLERS to boot.

    Obamacare is the 9/11 that the DEMOCRATS launched against the very people they were elected to serve. Just like our service members tracked and hunted down Bin Laden so to the AMERICAN PUBLIC will track down those DEMOCRATS and elect them out of office. This insurance death spiral is certainly coming because no youngsters are signing up. If Obama and company think they are going to pay the insurance companies for their losses subsidized by the American
    taxpayer they have another thing coming. Americans are mad now just let us find out that the government let out a check to these companies. You will see
    Americans read those DEMOCRATS the riot act BEFORE November.

    America is coming for you, Democrats, see you in November.

    The Republicans can run the devil himself and I would vote for him instead of a democrat. At least I know what the devil policies are right now.

  • steve

    It’s a shame Obummer’s real name isn’t Richard Cranium…then we could call him Dick Head….

  • janderson4795

    The number one quality of liberals is telling lies.

  • Cary Languirand

    Kathleen Sebelius that lying C#%T!!!!! She and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and that miserable lying bastard Barack have F@$ked the citizens of this country six ways from Sunday. We have been screwed….royally screwed. The only thing we can do as citizens is completely boycott this nightmare and completely rebuke this administration and this congress. It is time to show Barack and company who is driving is his boss. He has forgotten that we pay his salary and he takes his marching orders from us…not the other way around.

  • tim thompson

    What do u expect? People wont fire them so it goes on and on

  • Jeff

    Jerk ass liar ….

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  • Mary_Kendzicky

    It’s time for a huge, bloody revolution. It’s time to eradicate all Libturds from this once great nation.

  • Mary_Kendzicky

    Libturds…

  • LibsLie

    why do you think they want 20 million new illegal voters? They burned their current base of suckers and need a new group to exploit with handouts. It is that simple.